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Jun 11 2011 08:19pm
Quote (Juicy_J @ Jun 12 2011 11:42am)
This more or less. As soon as he became affiliated with Akatsuki, he was done. The Leaf was willing to let him back in the village when he was with Orochimaru, but Akatsuki is a whole new level of rogue.



It doesn't really matter. After Itachi died (I'm purposely not giving Sasuke credit for this and I never will) and Madara told him the truth, he opted not to carry out Itachi's wishes for some reason. If he really wanted to make things right, he wouldn't bring more destruction. He's just such a moron and he's begging to be killed by Naruto.



This also. It would appear that Itachi is more loyal to the Uchiha's wishes as opposed to just Itachi's, though it's clear that he now cares for his older brother. He merely sees Itachi as the fall guy for the Hidden Leaf. I guess I could understand, but he just has a lust for revenge in general because he's an idiot.


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Jun 11 2011 09:39pm
Yeah I don't understand Sasuke's motives all that well either. I mean he doesn't even know anything about his clan, They died when he was young as hell. He doesn't know any of the history or anything

He's just a tool nowadays
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Jun 11 2011 10:44pm
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Yeah I don't understand Sasuke's motives all that well either. I mean he doesn't even know anything about his clan, They died when he was young as hell. He doesn't know any of the history or anything

He's just a tool nowadays


I agree. He obviously had trouble believing Madara about his clan's history and how they rivaled the Senju clan. Since he believed him, I'm sure that if he took an extra 5 minutes to think it over, he might have realized that his clan was a bit corrupt and really not that spectacular. However, pride became and issue and he sided with his clan.

He's pretty much a tool. He was Orochimaru's tool until he turned that on him, and now he's majorly being used by Madara. Ever since he left the village, he hasn't been his own man.
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Jun 12 2011 12:27am
What if sasuke is putting it on with madara like he did with orochimaru and is faking being an asshole in front of former team 7 and kills madara because he thinks madara fuked up his clan.
after all madara was pretty much an outcast of konoha and uchiha
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Jun 12 2011 01:45am
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What if sasuke is putting it on with madara like he did with orochimaru and is faking being an asshole in front of former team 7 and kills madara because he thinks madara fuked up his clan.
after all madara was pretty much an outcast of konoha and uchiha


Na, madara tried to warn the clan senju were pushing them aside and clan didn't believe them several years later senju realize madara was right so sasuke dad heads a plan for rebellion. Itachi cares more for village and will of fire then his clan cause he hates death so leaf elders took advantage of this and had him kill clan madara helped to get his revenge from being outed so my point is sasuke sees that madara was right and justifies if case his own dad felt the same
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Jun 12 2011 01:55am
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Na, madara tried to warn the clan senju were pushing them aside and clan didn't believe them several years later senju realize madara was right so sasuke dad heads a plan for rebellion. Itachi cares more for village and will of fire then his clan cause he hates death so leaf elders took advantage of this and had him kill clan madara helped to get his revenge from being outed so my point is sasuke sees that madara was right and justifies if case his own dad felt the same


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Jun 12 2011 02:39am
Also sasuke is mad leaf elders took advantage to Itachi and put him in that situation he is even more mad when he found out his brother really loved him and lived a life of shame and was pretty much a sacrifice pawn all because the leaf forced him to fight in the world ninja war #3 at the age of 5 and saw things no child ever should see. This is why he hates death and chose to kill his clan cause it was the lesser of two evils sasuke is mad that people if leaf are living peaceful ignorant bliss at his brother expense
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Jun 12 2011 04:55am
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I understand Sasuke's anger completely. He does have misguided anger, but the fact of the matter is he threatened to the destroy the Leaf. He also attacked the 5 Kage Summit, making him a threat to the other major villages as well. Let's not forget he killed the man who was acting as Hokage, despite how deceptive he was. He doesn't deserve to return home to anybody.

I also personally hate him as a character and hope Naruto kills him.


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Jun 12 2011 09:41am
Quote (five33 @ Jun 12 2011 01:39am)
Also sasuke is mad leaf elders took advantage to Itachi and put him in that situation  he is even more mad when he found out his brother really loved him and lived a life of shame and was pretty much a sacrifice pawn  all because the leaf forced him to fight in the world ninja war #3  at the age of 5 and saw things no child ever should see. This is why he hates death and chose to kill his clan cause it was the lesser of two evils  sasuke is mad that people if leaf are living peaceful ignorant bliss  at his brother expense


Yeah didn't Madara admit to helping Itachi kill every Uchiha member? Yet when he told Sasuke that it was just Itachi's orders Sasuke was like "omg leaf did it"

He had like no anger toward Madara at all yet
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Jun 12 2011 02:14pm
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Yeah didn't Madara admit to helping Itachi kill every Uchiha member? Yet when he told Sasuke that it was just Itachi's orders Sasuke was like "omg leaf did it"

He had like no anger toward Madara at all yet


Yeah pretty much. One day Sasuke's gonna be like, "Wait what the hell. Why did you help my brother?" Madara will reply, "Oh well... uhhh Itachi looked like he was in trouble so I helped? I thought it was the Senju clan? They looked at me funny?"

Sasuke is only disgracing Itachi because obviously Itachi was willing to become the Leaf's fall guy and accept what he had to do. Sasuke fails to see that siding with Itachi is also siding with the Leaf because he's a moron.
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