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logias are better over all than those usually, yes....but just having a logia doesn't make you all powerful like enel or ao kiji. You have to be a good base fighter and have trained with it a lot.


everyone knows that ...

but im talking about SH's crew...

How would they deal with him? When physical attacks wont work? Franky knows it and he seems to be unusually calm ...
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logias are better over all than those usually, yes....but just having a logia doesn't make you all powerful like enel or ao kiji. You have to be a good base fighter and have trained with it a lot.


I think what undead is trying to say is that nobody on the crew can inflict damage on him. Franky is probably much stronger than Caribou but all he can do is contain him. Unless they can exploit mud's weakness. What would that be?
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I think what undead is trying to say is that nobody on the crew can inflict damage on him. Franky is probably much stronger than Caribou but all he can do is contain him. Unless they can exploit mud's weakness. What would that be?


what happens when mud dries?


I'm guessing heat or dehydration would work against him, almost like the opposite of croc
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what happens when mud dries?


I'm guessing heat or dehydration would work against him, almost like the opposite of croc


I was thinking heat at first but when you heat mud it gets stronger. It might work though since it should change the properties of his logia from liquid to solid. Like in crocodile's case, water doesn't really make sand weaker, but it does change the physical form of it.
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Quote (undead_lord @ Dec 2 2010 02:56pm)
everyone knows that ...

but im talking about SH's crew...

How would they deal with him? When physical attacks wont work? Franky knows it and he seems to be unusually calm ...


You missed his whole point.

Logia is handy but it's not the be all and end all.

Although not always immediately apparent, there are often other means of defeating a logia. Caribou seems to be a cowardly screwball so far, so even if he does get loose I doubt he'll be much of a challenge to the crew.

Any one of the characters could probably knock him off the deck which that alone could kill caribou due to the seawater or creatures. But, at the same time Caribou is a little too dumb to bother killing I'm afraid.


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what happens when mud dries?

I'm guessing heat or dehydration would work against him, almost like the opposite of croc


Interesting

Usopp and Franky deal with fire which looks like it could be mud's weakness.

Nami also deals with weather conditions, if she could increase the temperature or dryness of the climate that might effect it although thats slightly more of a stretch.

Of course there's always an abundance of seawater.

I hate it when people over estimate logia & haki abilities. The whole point of the show is that ones willpower and a desire to protect can overcome almost anything

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You missed his whole point. 

Logia is handy but it's not the be all and end all. 

Although not always immediately apparent, there are often other means of defeating a logia.  Caribou seems to be a cowardly screwball so far, so even if he does get loose I doubt he'll be much of a challenge to the crew. 

Any one of the characters could probably knock him off the deck which that alone could kill caribou due to the seawater or creatures.  But, at the same time Caribou is a little too dumb to bother killing I'm afraid.




Interesting

Usopp and Franky deal with fire which looks like it could be mud's weakness. 

Nami also deals with weather conditions, if she could increase the temperature or dryness of the climate that might effect it although thats slightly more of a stretch.

Of course there's always an abundance of seawater. 

I hate it when people over estimate logia & haki abilities.  The whole point of the show is that ones willpower and a desire to protect can overcome almost anything


right

I'd say ambition too, because people like Blackbeard have risen from the ranks of obscurity to being an ultimate menace.


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right

I'd say ambition too, because people like Blackbeard have risen from the ranks of obscurity to being an ultimate menace.


Absolutely, I agree entirely.

Should have added that as well

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im glad non of the SH crew are loga users

there over rated imo im glad to see natural ability and unique ability > then stereotype power houses like fire, ice, etc
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im glad non of the SH crew are loga users 

there over rated imo  im glad to see natural ability and unique ability > then stereotype power houses like  fire, ice,  etc


I wouldn't mind seeing a logia in the crew.


They are in the new world, after all....things like that are less godlike than they were in the grandline.

More people will show up with powerful fruits, or haki, or various other knowledge.

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Dec 2 2010 11:11pm
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I wouldn't mind seeing a logia in the crew.


They are in the new world, after all....things like that are less godlike than they were in the grandline.

More people will show up with powerful fruits, or haki, or various other knowledge.


ace would of been more bad ass with out his fire imo

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