We have covered this over and over again. The reason zaraki tied with Ichigo is because he didn't have an "I'm gonna die. Better use Kendo" moment. Okay, enough of that.

Nnoitra said "How many 100s of years has it been since you were banished? The number on your back means nothing anymore" Considering Aizen got houkyoku only recently, I'm pretty sure it gives boosts to the ones that are already vast lords, as well as the ones that aren't. Since Nnoitra thanked Aizen for giving him the boost using houkyoku then I'm pretty sure that he can give boosts to everybody, not just plain hollows.

Yes, but vast lordes are already human size and shape whether they receive the boost from houkyoku or not. I think they get the boost whether they are masked or human shape.

This post was edited by Thor123422 on May 20 2009 07:59pm

rukia said in the first couple episodes that hollow world's time is slower than their world's and that hueco mundo was a lonely and desolate place.....plus aizen was hollowfying test subjects before he got the houkyou so they could have a possibility of being hollowfied a different way..... nnoitara NEVER EVER mentioned he was hollowfied via houkyokou....the houkyouku can only break/repair the barrier between shinigami and hollows......it cannot boost powers of arrancars... otherwise all of aizen's army would be espada level...

here's the breakdown of the houkyouku.... it gives hollows a sword... get it?

i think i made the rukia part up... i'll research it later

This post was edited by Cyba on May 20 2009 08:56pm

Are you high?

that's what i'm saying.

Damn, Hitsugaya still has shit up his sleeve. Makes sense, considering his Zanpaktou is the strongest water based.

Okay, I noob'd saying wonderweiss. I should have only said Nel

and yes, it breaks down teh line between hollow and soul reaper, but where has it ever been said that the power boost is only given to the ones that are masked?

I don't think there's ever been a good explanation of exactly what houkyoku does. I don't think we should rule out the possibility that the houkyoku can give extra powers to the ones that are already human shape and size just because they already look like soul reapers. No matter what they look like, a hollow is a hollow until it has houkyoku used on it. Vast Lords may naturally be human shape, but who says they can't get a boost from getting soul reaper powers?

Btw, I don't think they are considered arancars just because they look like humans. It never said that any of the espada even had the ability to do a resurrection before aizen got houkyoku. Honestly we are still in the dark about the specifics of hollows and houkyoku



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This post was edited by Thor123422 on May 21 2009 09:56am

i read the first few sentences and i believe you're still confused and putting words in my mouth at this point......so i gave up reading the rest to break down the details between vasto lordes and arrancars.....

a hollow has many classifications... vasto lorde, menos, etc..... vasto lorde being the highest......vasto lordes take human shape....when they become arrancar, they just lose their mask (leaving only a glimpse of it) and are given a sword (the shinigami detail)......when they release, arrancars go back to their forms before they became arrancars....... vasto lordes can have the hokyouku used on them, i never said they couldn't....it turns them into arrancars making them more powerful then what they were previously because vasto lordes is just the most powerful hollow..... just because vasto lordes already have human shape doesn't mean they can't have the houkyoku used on them....i never ever said that vasto lordes can't have houkyoku used on them... i said arrancars can't have houkyoku used on them because they already broke the barrier between hollows and shinigami powers....

and no, the powers of the houkyoku (at least some powers of it) are very clear and specific at this point.....it turns hollows (vasto lordes=hollows with a human shape) into shinigamis (gives them swords, lose parts of their masks), i'm guessing it can also rebuild the barrier considering urahara was gonna use it to reverse hollowfication, and although uncertain it can most likely turn shinigamis into vizards.

and omfg.. dont' you understand? vasto lordes take human shape, but they're still hollows......arrancars carry around a freakin sword, have lost most of their masks (hollows face is all mask), etc....in conclusion: i never said hollows that look like humans are automatically considered arrancars so don't put these words in my mouth...

i never fuckin said arrancars have the ability to do resurrection before the houkyoku was used on them...... resurrection is what an ARRANCAR does to go back to their hollow form which gives them more powerful... hollows can't do resurrection... it is illegal..

p..s can you find me my quotes where you THINK i claim half of these stuff? i think you misread ALL of my stuff

isn't his shikai water dragon?

I'v never seen him use water anything, except freezing it into ice.

Can you give me an example of the stuff I am saying you said? Cuz I think at this point you are just being Cyba trying to cause conflict

EDIT: Also, why would Aizen even need houkyoku if he already had a method to make hollows into soul reapers?

This post was edited by Thor123422 on May 21 2009 10:50am