the essays the ESSAYS

Dafuq I just read?

Yeah I mean when I said it activated other bcells
I didn't mean like every single B cells found in ur body that can bind to antigens with different variable region of the bcr but rather the specific variable region.
I alreadyd knew that not all antibodies bind to a certain antigen and that there are a constant region in which all bcr share and a variable region which is different for every dofferent antigens

Pmd u btw

Anyways how is everyone doing? naruto related: screw sasgay...

Sasuke obviously going to get rinnegan because Hashirama most likely infused his cells within Sasuke's. So when Madara came back with Rinne Tensei he had to get his eyes back because obviously he died without them, now if Minato gives Naruto his half of the kyuubi, wouldn't that half get taken away if Minato got sealed or his edo tensei stopped? Dafuq man Kishi mind fucking us all here.

Also if Sasuke did get the rinnegan say, how would a dead being give sasuke their cells?

This post was edited by paradoxlol on Jan 18 2014 03:30pm

ok now you're just picking out certain words that I say instead of seeing how I use those words and if they correlate to anything that you're trying to say. Never lose sight of your initial argument

here's what you originally posted:



ok, so we're going to skip to the part where you meant to say "then" instead of "than" because we both know what you meant.
Here's the gist of what you originally put: B cells present antigen to T cells. T cells then activates several over B cells (meaning you said subsequently, immediately after activation, it activates other B cells. and please don't try to deny this, it's not hard to use context clues to see what you meant).

That's where you're wrong in the first place. The potential activation of other B cells by that one T cell does not happen that fast. That T cell is bound to that B cell (in the T cell area) and moves to the primary and secondary follicles of the lymph node after the cognate interaction (out of contact with the rest of the B cells). Do you know how long the B cell and T cells are attached for? 3-4 weeks.... hence why you don't immediately generate non-IgM antibodies so early in an infection and hence why it takes so long to clear an infection. The division process takes a lot of time and energy (which gives you your symptomatic feeling of fatigue during an infection). That T cell is not going to be activating any other B cells for a very, very long time, probably not until the infection is over. Its progenies can still activate other B cells, but not that single T cell that was bound to that initial B cell.

This post was edited by Cyba on Jan 18 2014 04:25pm

wall of text crits me for 9999 damage

ohh im sorry wrong forum thought i clicked anime/naruto thread

OK calling it now maito gai going to be manly and 1 v 1 madara for a bit! will show us why he was off on a mission when pain invaded cause he 2 OverPOwered~!~

no clue what gaara was told by kurama...it cant be the shit chiyo used unless kurama told gaara to tell kankuro(how he knows it i dunno) to use it.

first and 2nd arent full power so their losses to a full powered madara unlike what they've faced before is fine although it being off panel is a bit meh!

not sure but was him trying to blitz madara who wasnt looking a testament of how the rinnegan even further surpasses sharingan/ms seeing as izuna was facing and trying to attack the 2nd

omg if u read a little further I did say "which further binds to this specific antigens"
I already knew T cells can't be activating other B cells with different variable region than the one that was presented
So that's why I assumed u would think I wouldn't think that T cells activate bcells for different antigens


So what use been saying is that T cells are basically like a cascade where like there's only a single orgin
That 1 T cell needs time to replicate and divide which (the progeny ,not parent cells) activates more B cells for that specific antigen?

So overall a B cell present antigen to T cell , T cell releases cytokines (I think u said something about cytokines not being right, I'll read that part later) , that T cell activates 1 B cell, and the T cell goes through mitosis/cytokinesis which produces "offspring" and those "offspring" are the ones to activate another single B cell
that have the same variable region and keeps going down the generation?

If I'm right on this, ur explaination of the infection and it's timing helped