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Jan 30 2012 01:03am
Quote (EpicOrg @ Jan 30 2012 01:40am)
http://img.chan4chan.com/img/2009-06-08/1244440985597.jpg


I'm all for SOPA if crunchyroll or another would offer more anime. For the last two weeks I've been 100% legal anime I might stay legal only missing 1 show I'd really like to watch.


for some reasons i died laughing of that picture :rofl:

seriously if a angry black guy like was shouting that it would be so awesome :P
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Jan 30 2012 03:14am
Quote (Gensokyo @ Jan 29 2012 09:45pm)
hi niggz

i read an interesting article in regards to sopa/pipa/acta, which i more or less agree with. the govt's already proven (via the MU raid) that it doesn't need any more power to act on copyright infringement, but that bills keep being drafted by the major interests (mpaa/riaa, etc).

the fundamental problem as i see it, is hollywood + the "traditional" publishing agencies trying to maintain their absolutely massive (google hollywood banking for examples) profit margin & complete middleman control - regardless of actual threat.
'n so, they will keep attempting to draft various bills, in order to leglislate this perceived right of theirs. the name will change, but the intent will stay the same.

the most reasonable thing, as i see it, that could come of this, is industry experts (ie, people who actually know what the fuck they're on about), the protestors (or representatives thereof) come together and draft their own alternative bill or solution, worded in a manner which would prevent such wildcard usage/censorship that any current forms of the bill would facilitate.

tl;dr, stop letting old dumbfucks determine the result of things they have absolutely no fucking idea about.


In one of our hardware/software web services there was an article about the MU raid. The founder of the MU wanted to open a service where every artist could sell their stuff and make 90% on it. It'd be possible to skip the middle man, the big companies, the riaa etc. If it's true, then no wonder he was the first victim. If I were him I'd just move the fuck out of USA and start doing this somewhere it'd be possible.

Another article I read was about UK student being extradited to states for having a blog where peeps could share links to files on other servers. A filesharing site but without any files on his server. He had 300k unique visits/month. The press said he's going to be made example of and he'll get maximum sentence - 10 years in usa prison. Ridiculous.

I don't think there will be any agreement between the two sides of this conflict, the customer and the companies. The way the world was going up till now was to skip the middleman, because in the age of internet why the fuck he even exists? I can't wait to see how it'll turn out. Few countries in UE didn't sign that crap (eg Germany), hope we, as UE, will never make it happen. Funny fact is, USA wanted to force ACTA without UE parliment having his say about it!

The ACTA is made to seal forever how industry works now. No profit/small profit for the artist, shitload profit to the releasing company.

Quote (Whalefood @ Jan 29 2012 10:46pm)
Stealing is stealing. Downloading music or taking copyrighted things is no different than walking into watch store and stealing a watch.

This will probably make people actually buy anime DVDs and help reduce the amount of stupid fan services.


You know that ACTA is like about 10% about the internet? It's designed to controll every forged products. Even those that were made on bought legal license (eg cheap drug substituces). Also it neglects regional products that we in Poland have a few (that's 2nd reason I'm pissed why our goverment is supporting ACTA). Another example (at least here) your car broke and you need to buy some parts to it, original ones are 500$/each, substitute is 100$/each. You know now what it means? You'll overpay everywhere, just so companies can make more profit. Not even starting on that they would be able to make whatever price they can, because there would be no alternative.
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Jan 30 2012 03:58am
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In one of our hardware/software web services there was an article about the MU raid. The founder of the MU wanted to open a service where every artist could sell their stuff and make 90% on it. It'd be possible to skip the middle man, the big companies, the riaa etc. If it's true, then no wonder he was the first victim. If I were him I'd just move the fuck out of USA and start doing this somewhere it'd be possible.

Another article I read was about UK student being extradited to states for having a blog where peeps could share links to files on other servers. A filesharing site but without any files on his server. He had 300k unique visits/month. The press said he's going to be made example of and he'll get maximum sentence - 10 years in usa prison. Ridiculous.

I don't think there will be any agreement between the two sides of this conflict, the customer and the companies. The way the world was going up till now was to skip the middleman, because in the age of internet why the fuck he even exists? I can't wait to see how it'll turn out. Few countries in UE didn't sign that crap (eg Germany), hope we, as UE, will never make it happen. Funny fact is, USA wanted to force ACTA without UE parliment having his say about it!

The ACTA is made to seal forever how industry works now. No profit/small profit for the artist, shitload profit to the releasing company.



You know that ACTA is like about 10% about the internet? It's designed to controll every forged products. Even those that were made on bought legal license (eg cheap drug substituces). Also it neglects regional products that we in Poland have a few (that's 2nd reason I'm pissed why our goverment is supporting ACTA). Another example (at least here) your car broke and you need to buy some parts to it, original ones are 500$/each, substitute is 100$/each. You know now what it means? You'll overpay everywhere, just so companies can make more profit. Not even starting on that they would be able to make whatever price they can, because there would be no alternative.


SOPA and ACTA were both designed to do one thing on multiple levels, that one thing is to make the rich richer and the poor poorer.

whether it is a part for your car, some generic pain killers or a Anime show you watch, it will make those without tons on money have access to less and have to pay the huge companies making millions already more for there products.

but that is how the people in power want the world to work and I fear it is only a matter of time until it happens.. because even tho the poor vastly out number the rich, the rich are pulling all the strings.

This post was edited by Youmu on Jan 30 2012 03:59am
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Jan 30 2012 04:06am
tldr

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Jan 30 2012 04:08am
Yep, that's what acta is in a nutshell.

Anyway, I doubt people will accept acta without putting a good fight. Our prime minister already changed his attitude towards it. From 'we need to sign it now!' to 'we should reconsider'. Plus there is the info fron wikileaks or from Swedish Piracy Party minister showing how our goverment lied to us, so I can't really see politicians getting away with it now.

I can't belive people in our goverment didn't even read it - one leader of major opposing party said it himself that he didn't read it, lol. He also said people need to vote it down, so I can forgive him ;)
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Jan 30 2012 04:27am
it kinda shocked me how fast SOPA got shot down since the majority of the USA has been dumbed down enough to where something like this could have passed without anyone know wtf was going on.

it was not until wiki and google said something about that a lot of people became aware of what what was going on, once people herd it would limit the internet then they got all pissed off about it.. kinda sad really but not surprising.

I am still shocked at how bold they are becoming tho.. this may sound crazy but if anything were to push people so far as to start a revolution I think it would be something like this, as crazy as that sounds.

that was already demonstrated with the wiki/google black out, a lot of people got really pissed really fast. however I feel most people at least in the USA have gotten to lazy for something like a true revolution to take place..

I think the whole occupy random locations like seattle and wallstreet proved that fact.

Quote (Aydar @ Jan 30 2012 02:08am)
Yep, that's what acta is in a nutshell.

Anyway, I doubt people will accept acta without putting a good fight. Our prime minister already changed his attitude towards it. From 'we need to sign it now!' to 'we should reconsider'. Plus there is the info fron wikileaks or from Swedish Piracy Party minister showing how our goverment lied to us, so I can't really see politicians getting away with it now.

I can't belive people in our goverment didn't even read it - one leader of major opposing party said it himself that he didn't read it, lol. He also said people need to vote it down, so I can forgive him ;)


yeah once people get that veil off from over there eyes and look at it and what it really means not just what you herd from your bother or friend or some random off the internet, they realize how outrageous it really is..

kinda makes you think how many other stupid law got passed without congress even reading it..

Quote (Applecrack @ Jan 30 2012 02:06am)
tldr

srsly


a prime example of how lazy the majority has become, you should run for office and have tl;dr be your slogan.. srsly as long as you look good on tv its possible.
kiss a few babies on fox news you and could probably win easy, most people would not even know what tl;dr means nor care enough to look it up.

/e and with tl;dr as your slogan you would get a lot of support from the president and other members of congress.

This post was edited by Youmu on Jan 30 2012 04:33am
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Jan 30 2012 04:35am

too much text on you guys post's to i wanna read them so imma just post a epic gif ^_^
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Jan 30 2012 04:44am
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Plus there is the info fron wikileaks or from Swedish Piracy Party minister showing how our goverment lied to us, so I can't really see politicians getting away with it now.


blast it all over facebook and twitter.. the social networking sites are a extremely powerful tool.

case and point http://www.zdnet.com/blog/asia/virtual-idol-hatsune-miku-topping-2012-olympics-poll/765

I am somewhat proud of this since I did all that I could to make it happen, but I was just a small part of this.. it would have never happened without facebook.

This post was edited by Youmu on Jan 30 2012 04:45am
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Jan 30 2012 04:53am
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blast it all over facebook and twitter.. the social networking sites are a extremely powerful tool.

case and point http://www.zdnet.com/blog/asia/virtual-idol-hatsune-miku-topping-2012-olympics-poll/765

I am somewhat proud of this since I did all that I could to make it happen, but I was just a small part of this.. it would have never happened without facebook.


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Jan 30 2012 05:54am
Quote (Aydar @ Jan 29 2012 01:25pm)
My sources of information here are limited, but it's good to hear. I hope, with the amount of people protesting, acta won't get through Polish parliment.

and Cyche, you're as gay as ever.


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