I don't think so, Madara kind of gave the Idea to Obito; showing him a genjutsu where he can live the life he would choose. Obito became cynical and took the plan in to his own hands. I think Madara has different motives as with Obito he has just be driven.

I've been thinking the same thing ever since this image. Could be a coincidence that the moon is there, or it could mean something.

da hell

What the fuck are you even talking about? Seriously. No one said a word about "where the sage is." Why do you bring up such pointless garbage?



In this post, I addressed this point. What do Obito and the Sage have in common? The Sage was once the 10 tails jinchuriki which Obito now is. Derp. Madara said perfectly clearly, "Now that Obito has become the same as the Sage of the Six Paths..." Again, derp. Where the fuck did you get that I said that they were the same exact person? I said that Madara claimed that Obito had become the same. Similar abilities, similar strength, chakra, speed, whatever. We don't know to what extent that means. My entire point to begin with was that Obito outclasses everyone at the moment, including Hashirama. I have no idea why you go on these tangents and put words in my mouth.

Quote (Charity @ 25 Jul 2013 16:24)
dunno why you said this but where exactly is the sage? pretty sure thats just obito who is the 10 tails jinchuriki. Until its confirmed exactly how the sage dealt with the 10tails i will presume it was solo unlike obito who really just "stole" the sealing part. Also being purely outmatched in strength doesnt dictate the end result as ive said many times before.

1st use to control the 1-9 having some affect on the 10tails is quite plausible. Madara + Obito both used their first dna to control him didnt they.

Madara's trump card may be what sasuke did to naruto after the 2 year time skip just go inside obito(lesser sharingan user) and fuck shit up.

http://eatmanga.com/Manga-Scan/Naruto/Naruto-638/page-19

"Now that Obito has become the same as the Sage of the Six Paths..."

The Sage of the Six Paths WAS the 10 tails jinchuriki, which Obito currently is. Madara didn't really even need to say this to piece that together. = you

right there? negato had the power of the sage hrm i dont see konohamaru being outmatched haha. its obito who is the 10tails jinchuriki he doesnt have the sage powers but the biju's power you understand yet? the 1st said he was outmatched by obito not the sage bro why did you bring up the sage was my rebuttal to you.

madara simply meant that obito did the same thing the sage did...become the 10tails jinchuriki. come on son we all know jinchuriki are different whether they have the same beast or not...

Until they show the sage hiding in a different dimension while the FULLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL 10tails is rampaging then coming out of said dimension and kamui the 10tails while sealing it im going to hav to say obito is no where near the sage and the only likening they have is being a jinchuriki

still at a loss as to how obito can control this mass of hate so quickly, what i am getting at is it has to be the 1st dna so a sharingan pop in and 1st suppression should do the trick.

This post was edited by Charity on Jul 27 2013 11:52pm

I think you are over analyzing/thinking what he said

also nagato had rinnegan=sage powers

obito=rinnegan AND 10 tails= same as the sage.

also you said minato said it was impossible for one person to hold all of the kyuubis chakra or something not 100% sure If that's what you meant but that is false

he said the kuubis chakra is too much to seal all at once of course I could have simply misread it and that is what you meant.

also why are you talking about the sage being in another dimension with another 10 tails?

The other dimension was teasing of how obito let others do everything then he achieved the reward of becoming the jinchuriki. Also the assumption the sage went 1 v 1 with the 10tails and came out victorious.

No no im not i think he doesnt understand that Im saying this current obito/10tails is but a fledging to the sage hence why i asked him where he sees the sage and his response was madaras comment. The comment was only saying obito was the 10tails jinchuriki, the same as the sage.

He said the 2 strongest are far out matched by the sages power but i still dunno where the sage is in this fight? Obito sealed the 10tails who only has a piece of 8tails and 9tails as well as not fully transformed.... so again where is the sage or his power?

I would have to check about the kyuubi thing but i was sure it was sealing it in one person he mentioned that was impossible EITHER WAY i then went on to say it didnt matter because the sage had sealed an even greater biji the 10tails in one body.. so ofc a lesser person could take all of the 9tails either way minatos statement was wrong...

tl:dr THE SAGE OR HIS POWER is no where on this battlefield at the moment. 10tails hasnt fully transformed obito is a peasant.

This post was edited by Charity on Jul 28 2013 12:27am

Seeing as they're back on track with the adaptation I think Cap.Yamato is dead and his body was used as Madara's vessel
I get the feeling his wood style is stronger than Hashirama's at this point and he has something planned with it alongside complete susan'o

Yes it is. Please refer to what Madara said, yet again. "Since Obito has become the same as the Sage of the Six Paths..." pretty clear indicator that Obito wields power now that is at least similar to what the Sage once did.

mcbatch is right, you're way over-thinking what I said. You really don't have to take everything so literally just so you can "prove your point." Do I believe Obito has the same level of strength as the Sage? No. Do I know that he wields power that is at least somewhat similar? Yes. That's backed up by clear, undeniable evidence which you bitch so much about.

This post was edited by Juicy_J on Jul 29 2013 05:41pm

Except with a little bit of thought you can understand madara has to mean he is the 10tails jinchuriki and that is the only aspect that makes him the same. The 10tails doesnt wield the same power he originally hadso how is obito the same as the sage? Holding the same tailed beast IN NO WAY makes you the same... So no its not undeniable evidence in the least and sorry that i want evidence to be what proves me wrong and not another persons perspective on the matter. The sage and obito are clearly 2 different people who has access to the same power(s). Bee clearly was superior to his predecessor as a jinchuriki. Naruto to his mom too etc etc can go on and on. FTG between the 2nd and 4th.

I dunno ginkaku kinkaku and minato they dont actually have the 9tails will, either way with PIECES of the 9tails power its clear as day the difference between them, as people who wield the same "power".

This manga has shown its not the power but what you do with it or what you are capable of with it. Naruto learned element manipulation with shadow clones why didnt kisame with his immense chakra do the same? sasuke with chidori. etc etc

This post was edited by Charity on Jul 29 2013 06:09pm