Yes, they used those as substitute to give rise to the juubi.

dam... still waiting to see madara trump card

watch it be some secret relic left behind by the sage.

I dunno the fact that obito used his memories of when he was with his sensei kakashi etc as his will to overcome the juubi should rise some questions on where he stands.

random forming of that staff was pretty interesting, as welll as some sort of resemblance to the sage but only as a jinchuriki, i thought that was the sages normal look.

Come on the 4th in kyuubi mode used his SPEED to escape but didnt? he even commented on it without noticing. The thing to note is that the first and second(maybe the other 2) arent at full power so did the first mean even if he were alive he would be majorly outclassed?

obito is just really out there as far as power, I am pretty sure no one can match up to him even if everyone was vs obito. Naruto needs to eat the dragonballs or fuse with minatos chakra to get better. or some bs like that rofl...

isn't that staff made of that black thing obito has around his arms?

Yeah but its the actual shape it took after he gained control that i found interesting..

It has been made clear that every shinobi on the battlefield, including the presumably the two strongest ninjas to have ever lived are outclassed by the power of the Sage of Six Paths. We'll have to see what Madara does.

dunno why you said this but where exactly is the sage? pretty sure thats just obito who is the 10 tails jinchuriki. Until its confirmed exactly how the sage dealt with the 10tails i will presume it was solo unlike obito who really just "stole" the sealing part. Also being purely outmatched in strength doesnt dictate the end result as ive said many times before.

1st use to control the 1-9 having some affect on the 10tails is quite plausible. Madara + Obito both used their first dna to control him didnt they.

Madara's trump card may be what sasuke did to naruto after the 2 year time skip just go inside obito(lesser sharingan user) and fuck shit up.

I have done some reading and research and found out that Minato sealed the Yang half of Kurama's chakra in Naruto and the other half which is Yin in the Dead Demon Consuming Seal which Minato has. The Sage of Six Paths had a technique called Yin-Yang Release and had complete mastery over it which he used to create the tailed beasts and breathe life into them. My theory is that Minato and Naruto will summon Rikudō Sennin together or Minato will give the Yin half he is missing to Naruto to do Yin-Yang Release alone or somehow end the war with it (maybe becoming the Sage of Six Paths).

The reason why Minato only sealed half could be because Naruto was too young to spiritually (Yin) and physically (Yang) deal with Kurama's chakra or Minato did it to take extreme caution in case someone in the future ever tried to summon the 10 tails and if they did take Kurama's chakra from Naruto the Yin half would still be missing leading to a still imperfect 10 tailed beast. The last reason I can think of would be that it is completely impossible to survive with the Yin and Yang of a tailed beasts chakra if the tailed beast will not give you full control. The Jinchuuriki's chakra would act as the Yin to balance with the tailed beasts Yang. Naruto now has full control of Kurama and is willing to do anything Naruto says and maybe he is now capable of recieving the Yin half.

This post was edited by Ivor on Jul 25 2013 07:08pm