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Jan 29 2009 10:05am
Quote (jangSTONXII @ Thu, Jan 29 2009, 07:14am)
neliel + nnoitra is talking about them just being arrancars in one of the flashbacks.
There are 12 espada + some ex espada.. Even hitsugaya mentions that if Aizen could gather up to 10 Vasto Lorde, soul society would be doomed. If the Espada were Vasto Lordes there would be no reason for Aizen not to strike right away..

Also remember that when the Vasto Lorde is mentioned the first time, its told that they can surpass Captain lvl shimis by far... Alot of the espada is already slain by The captains, and it didnt look that hard


Considering Ichigo w/ just bankai was just as powerful as byakuya the first time he used it (before his inner hollow started screwing him over) and it took his bankai + hollow mask, i'd say grimmjow is stronger than captains like komamura or tousen (yes, tousen. The only reason he didn't get pwned by grimmjow when he got his arm cut off is because he knew aizen would kill him)


I think that atleast 4 and below are vast lords, maybe 6 and below. Saying that ulquirra isn't stronger than a captain would just be retarded tongue.gif He didn't even have to use his sword when ichigo used 100% of his power in a getsuga tenshou, and didn't even take any damage from it.



I don't think we could count Nnoitra out of vast lord category. We couldn't really see him fight vs a regular captain. He was busy getting 1 shoted by zaraki.

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Considering Ichigo w/ just bankai was just as powerful as byakuya the first time he used it (before his inner hollow started screwing him over) and it took his bankai + hollow mask, i'd say grimmjow is stronger than captains like komamura or tousen (yes, tousen.  The only reason he didn't get pwned by grimmjow when he got his arm cut off is because he knew aizen would kill him)


I think that atleast  4 and below are vast lords, maybe 6 and below.  Saying that ulquirra isn't stronger than a captain would just be retarded tongue.gif        He didn't even have to use his sword when ichigo used 100% of his power in a getsuga tenshou, and didn't even take any damage from it.


I don't think we could count Nnoitra out of vast lord category.  We couldn't really see him fight vs a regular captain.  He was busy getting 1 shoted by zaraki.


I'm not 100% sure about Ulquiorra just yet, still 50-50 on him.
But I agree, he is definatly stronger than your average captain in his normal form, so if we do get to see his released form, that's worth seeing.
I think he could well be a the start of the Vasto Lord's under Aizen's command.

But looking at it, if you consider Ulquiorra vs Nnoitra, I do see a huge gap between their powers.

Or at least that's what i see smile.gif

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I'm not 100% sure about Ulquiorra just yet, still 50-50 on him.
But I agree, he is definatly stronger than your average captain in his normal form, so if we do get to see his released form, that's worth seeing.
I think he could well be a the start of the Vasto Lord's under Aizen's command.

But looking at it, if you consider Ulquiorra vs Nnoitra, I do see a huge gap between their powers.

Or at least that's what i see smile.gif


Your sig is from the movie memories of nobody right?
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Your sig is from the movie memories of nobody right?


Correct smile.gif

Senna from Memories of Nobody, same goes for the Avatar, unless i'm going to change it again tongue.gif
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Jan 29 2009 11:49am
That movie made me sad. I really liked it cry3.gif
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That movie made me sad. I really liked it  cry3.gif


But, it's the atmosphere that made it pretty good, lots of feelings involved.

Since there was a glimpse of Senna at the very end, I hope she actually appears in a Filler Arc eventually or, better yet, in the main storyline smile.gif

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Jan 29 2009 11:55am
When i saw her i flipped out, was happy she wasn't gone for good tongue.gif
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Quote (Freespace @ Thu, Jan 29 2009, 11:37am)
I'm not 100% sure about Ulquiorra just yet, still 50-50 on him.
But I agree, he is definatly stronger than your average captain in his normal form, so if we do get to see his released form, that's worth seeing.
I think he could well be a the start of the Vasto Lord's under Aizen's command.

But looking at it, if you consider Ulquiorra vs Nnoitra, I do see a huge gap between their powers.

Or at least that's what i see smile.gif


I dno't think we really got a good view of nnoitra unfortunately sad.gif Since he was going vs half dead ichigo and zaraki the entire time, I'm not sure we got a good comparison of power and speed.

I think Zaraki would have been able to 1 shot ulquirra w/ kendo happy.gif I doubt he was putting in near all of his power with that 1 swing vs nnoitra

Quote (Freespace @ Thu, Jan 29 2009, 11:53am)
But, it's the atmosphere that made it pretty good, lots of feelings involved.

Since there was a glimpse of Senna at the very end, I hope she actually appears in a Filler Arc eventually or, better yet, in the main storyline smile.gif


She won't appear in the main story line. I will guarantee it. All the movies are fillers.

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Jan 29 2009 11:58am
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Quote (cowbooty @ Thu, Jan 29 2009, 05:55pm)
When i saw her i flipped out, was happy she wasn't gone for good tongue.gif


Since Senna walked straight passed Ichigo, but Ichigo sort of had a sense of feeling, there's more to be told. (hopefully smile.gif)

If they put make a filler arc with Senna, many fans would be very pleased, plus she's got a fun personality.
A bit like how the first few episodes of Bleach where with a bit of comedy involved.
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Quote (Thor123422 @ Thu, Jan 29 2009, 05:57pm)
I dno't think we really got a good view of nnoitra unfortunately  Since he was going vs half dead ichigo and zaraki the entire time, I'm not sure we got a good comparison of power and speed.

I think Zaraki would have been able to 1 shot ulquirra w/ kendo  I doubt he was putting in near all of his power with that 1 swing vs nnoitra 


I still have my doubts perhaps.
Maybe because Nnoitra is not as good due to his personality, where as Ulqourria is much more calm.
So it probably appears a massive gap in power, even if it's just one position.

Quote (Thor123422 @ Thu, Jan 29 2009, 05:57pm)
She won't appear in the main story line.  I will guarantee it.  All the movies are fillers.


I know, but it's just wishful thinking smile.gif
Anime movies are always set at a specific time according to the main timeline, but has nothing to do with it.

Only thing I would like is another appearance in a wishful filler arc smile.gif

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