Quote (Cyba @ May 21 2013 02:19am)
hinata is hyuuga... why is the byakugan not as powerful as the 8 gates when neji is undefeated against rock lee
hrm i am almost certain lee has never fought against neji with the gates(neji saw it for the first time against gaara) but im not even talking about rock lee and gai per se just they are the only ones seen using the gates(yes kakashi did number 1) its more so the gates.
Sure hinata or anyone else can pull something NEW OUT but im saying the 8 gates is the end all be all of the taijutsu that we actually know of its been mentioned and seems to be very devastating if ever used as its likely taken out a kage since they mention the strength it produces is greater than a kage(or was it hokage).
Yes anyone kiba any of them like i said can do it but it will have to be something NEW, chouji(akimichis) are the only ones shown to have some technique that gives them a huge power boost.
Quote (Juicy_J @ May 21 2013 01:37pm)
Except Gai is at least somewhat proficient in Ninjutsu. Lee is the only incompetent one in that department.
Well, you made a claim that all Naruto can do is stall, and I countered by saying that if Naruto didn't have the burden of everyone around him, I believe he would be able to do more than stall. He seems to be able to survive Madara's abilities. He's also what appears now to be the fastest character on the show. I have to believe that Naruto might be able to find an opening to seal Madara away. I think Madara has more raw power but I'm not sure that stamina would be much of an issue for Naruto given that he has the Kyuubi.
Also, my comment about Gai has nothing to do about anyone's abilities. We know that Gai clearly outclasses virtually everyone from Konoha except for Kakashi and Naruto at this point, but that wasn't my point. The fact is, Gai is only slightly more significant than the likes of Kiba, Tenten, Lee, Shino, or any of the other underdeveloped Konoha 9. Granted, he actually did something significant by defeating Kisame. I only mean that Gai is not a major player in the story, the same as the aforementioned characters. He's not a significant piece.
Survive or not naruto at this time knows no sealing techniques and everyone else on the field aside from a few powerful ones will be dead. Sakura unless she can activate tsunades bullshit lol is dead so is hinata her stronger genius cousin died so im sure she would as well. My point is these will weigh on narutos mind as he didnt prevent them even if he tries to close off his heart for th egreater good of destroying madara the casualities will weigh on everyones mind aside from hardened characters such as gai(lee or kakashi may even break him) and kakashi have shown.
Naruto witht he kyuubi or not cant beat or survive a 1 v 1 with madara as he currently is. This is what the second time naruto has had to let the kyuubi rest? madara is like the androids from dbz he wont weaken at ALL meaning naruto has to finish the fight fast which if he could have made no sense for him not to do so when NO ONE was around but him bee gai and kakashi. Remember the allied shit just arrived to this fight.
Quote (mcbatch @ May 21 2013 08:19pm)
im under the impression shikamaru left hidan in a hole with severed limbs
edit: not severed limbs destroyed body
asuma had it not been for kakuza's sewing shit beat hidan. So no any capable ninja could deal with hidan even if he was edo tensei since he would be sealed right after a major blow was dealt such as azuma slicing his head off lol.
Now deidara definitely shouldnt have been part of the scout team but go out by himself and just freaking explode a shit ton of times lol. I forget exactly but couldnt he just summon his final bomb and then be de-summoned before it went off until gaara or whoever runs out of chakra.
This post was edited by Charity on May 21 2013 07:27pm