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May 21 2013 12:37pm
Quote (lyzerggg @ 20 May 2013 17:24)
The series should just be called "Gai" instead of Naruto.
He and Rock lee are the only odd ninjas out there and they are able to compete with "regular" ninjas who use ninjutsu.

Imagine the plot as "Gai" learns more and more taijutsu while learning how to release gates.
Releasing the 8th gate would kill him and the antagonist (by defeating him) thus ending the series.
would've been more entertaining to see an underdog like Rock Lee who can't use chakra excel to god like shinobi levels with just taijutsu and will power alone.


Except Gai is at least somewhat proficient in Ninjutsu. Lee is the only incompetent one in that department.

Quote (Charity @ 20 May 2013 23:24)
Obviously responded without reading as i mentioned exactly what you said and even gave an example as to why he would still be outmatched by madara along with the deaths of his comrades in front of him. He used up all the kyuubi to stop 1 ninjutsu from madara, yes naruto was weakened a bit before but madara has unlimited stamina and chakra so he can fire off enought ow ipe the kyuubi out. Not to mention the biju constant barrage im sorry but naruto only hope is exactly as shikamaru mentioned which was fight quality with quantity therefore naruto is doing all he can which just so happened to coincide with the hokages being rez'd. If naruto used all of his kyuubi just for himself hell even turned into the kyuubi madara +10 tails still wins while annihilating all the other people which would probably crush narutos spirit.

No No No chouji sure but kiba or shino or hinata or ten ten none of their techniques nor parents techniques have been shown or alluded to to be as powerful as the 8 gates. The end all be all of taijutsu users we've been shown and told about. So i have to say you are factually wrong in what the story has shown us. YES because it is a manga those chars can pull something completely new out but the 8 gates has basically been proven to be able to contend with whats out there. Kakashi was going to use his kamui to stop 5 or so tailed beast bombs and Gai said nah you would waste your time and not even solve the problem, gai then suggested he was going 8 gates mode and kakashi only response was you would die AFTER. Then naruto stopped it but that was why we didnt see 8 gates YET again which seems like it will be saved for something major. SO HELL NO to a kiba or anyone else i can think of atm from konoha or hell any one outside of oro 4 hokages and sasuke. I already explained why the 8 gates may still be to hyped seeing as how gai wouldnt say like he said against kisame twice or how chouji with one little technique he used before said they would end the war.


Well, you made a claim that all Naruto can do is stall, and I countered by saying that if Naruto didn't have the burden of everyone around him, I believe he would be able to do more than stall. He seems to be able to survive Madara's abilities. He's also what appears now to be the fastest character on the show. I have to believe that Naruto might be able to find an opening to seal Madara away. I think Madara has more raw power but I'm not sure that stamina would be much of an issue for Naruto given that he has the Kyuubi.

Also, my comment about Gai has nothing to do about anyone's abilities. We know that Gai clearly outclasses virtually everyone from Konoha except for Kakashi and Naruto at this point, but that wasn't my point. The fact is, Gai is only slightly more significant than the likes of Kiba, Tenten, Lee, Shino, or any of the other underdeveloped Konoha 9. Granted, he actually did something significant by defeating Kisame. I only mean that Gai is not a major player in the story, the same as the aforementioned characters. He's not a significant piece.
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May 21 2013 12:53pm
Quote (Juicy_J @ May 21 2013 02:37pm)
Except Gai is at least somewhat proficient in Ninjutsu. Lee is the only incompetent one in that department.



Well, you made a claim that all Naruto can do is stall, and I countered by saying that if Naruto didn't have the burden of everyone around him, I believe he would be able to do more than stall. He seems to be able to survive Madara's abilities. He's also what appears now to be the fastest character on the show. I have to believe that Naruto might be able to find an opening to seal Madara away. I think Madara has more raw power but I'm not sure that stamina would be much of an issue for Naruto given that he has the Kyuubi.

Also, my comment about Gai has nothing to do about anyone's abilities. We know that Gai clearly outclasses virtually everyone from Konoha except for Kakashi and Naruto at this point, but that wasn't my point. The fact is, Gai is only slightly more significant than the likes of Kiba, Tenten, Lee, Shino, or any of the other underdeveloped Konoha 9. Granted, he actually did something significant by defeating Kisame. I only mean that Gai is not a major player in the story, the same as the aforementioned characters. He's not a significant piece.


Naruto is only -slightly- faster than the 3rd raikage.. remember what happened to him?
Wood clones + susanno = infinite tsukiyomi by next chapter.
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May 21 2013 01:06pm
Quote (lyzerggg @ May 20 2013 05:24pm)
The series should just be called "Gai" instead of Naruto.
He and Rock lee are the only odd ninjas out there and they are able to compete with "regular" ninjas who use ninjutsu.

Imagine the plot as "Gai" learns more and more taijutsu while learning how to release gates.
Releasing the 8th gate would kill him and the antagonist (by defeating him) thus ending the series.
would've been more entertaining to see an underdog like Rock Lee who can't use chakra excel to god like shinobi levels with just taijutsu and will power alone.


i hope u know rock lee and gai use chakra like every other ninjas.. releasing the gates open up their chakra reserves.

it should also be called "Mifune" instead of "Gai" if anything since mifune isn't dependent on chakra to win battles

This post was edited by Cyba on May 21 2013 01:07pm
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May 21 2013 05:55pm
anybody else ever wonder how easy it would be to kill people with hidan?

i mean all you gotta do is get there blood hidan does his ritual and hes dead.

of course just getting there blood wont be easy to someone like minato but i mean if you cant kill them all you gotta do is make them bleed and collect there blood later.
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May 21 2013 07:15pm
Quote (mcbatch @ May 21 2013 06:55pm)
anybody else ever wonder how easy it would be to kill people with hidan?

i mean all you gotta do is get there blood hidan does his ritual and hes dead.

of course just getting there blood wont be easy to someone like minato but i mean if you cant kill them all you gotta do is make them bleed and collect there blood later.


hidan sure killed shikamaru easily
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May 21 2013 07:19pm
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hidan sure killed shikamaru easily


im under the impression shikamaru left hidan in a hole with severed limbs

edit: not severed limbs destroyed body

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May 21 2013 07:21pm
Quote (Cyba @ May 21 2013 02:19am)
hinata is hyuuga... why is the byakugan not as powerful as the 8 gates when neji is undefeated against rock lee


hrm i am almost certain lee has never fought against neji with the gates(neji saw it for the first time against gaara) but im not even talking about rock lee and gai per se just they are the only ones seen using the gates(yes kakashi did number 1) its more so the gates.

Sure hinata or anyone else can pull something NEW OUT but im saying the 8 gates is the end all be all of the taijutsu that we actually know of its been mentioned and seems to be very devastating if ever used as its likely taken out a kage since they mention the strength it produces is greater than a kage(or was it hokage).

Yes anyone kiba any of them like i said can do it but it will have to be something NEW, chouji(akimichis) are the only ones shown to have some technique that gives them a huge power boost.

Quote (Juicy_J @ May 21 2013 01:37pm)
Except Gai is at least somewhat proficient in Ninjutsu. Lee is the only incompetent one in that department.



Well, you made a claim that all Naruto can do is stall, and I countered by saying that if Naruto didn't have the burden of everyone around him, I believe he would be able to do more than stall. He seems to be able to survive Madara's abilities. He's also what appears now to be the fastest character on the show. I have to believe that Naruto might be able to find an opening to seal Madara away. I think Madara has more raw power but I'm not sure that stamina would be much of an issue for Naruto given that he has the Kyuubi.

Also, my comment about Gai has nothing to do about anyone's abilities. We know that Gai clearly outclasses virtually everyone from Konoha except for Kakashi and Naruto at this point, but that wasn't my point. The fact is, Gai is only slightly more significant than the likes of Kiba, Tenten, Lee, Shino, or any of the other underdeveloped Konoha 9. Granted, he actually did something significant by defeating Kisame. I only mean that Gai is not a major player in the story, the same as the aforementioned characters. He's not a significant piece.


Survive or not naruto at this time knows no sealing techniques and everyone else on the field aside from a few powerful ones will be dead. Sakura unless she can activate tsunades bullshit lol is dead so is hinata her stronger genius cousin died so im sure she would as well. My point is these will weigh on narutos mind as he didnt prevent them even if he tries to close off his heart for th egreater good of destroying madara the casualities will weigh on everyones mind aside from hardened characters such as gai(lee or kakashi may even break him) and kakashi have shown.

Naruto witht he kyuubi or not cant beat or survive a 1 v 1 with madara as he currently is. This is what the second time naruto has had to let the kyuubi rest? madara is like the androids from dbz he wont weaken at ALL meaning naruto has to finish the fight fast which if he could have made no sense for him not to do so when NO ONE was around but him bee gai and kakashi. Remember the allied shit just arrived to this fight.

Quote (mcbatch @ May 21 2013 08:19pm)
im under the impression shikamaru left hidan in a hole with severed limbs

edit: not severed limbs destroyed body


asuma had it not been for kakuza's sewing shit beat hidan. So no any capable ninja could deal with hidan even if he was edo tensei since he would be sealed right after a major blow was dealt such as azuma slicing his head off lol.

Now deidara definitely shouldnt have been part of the scout team but go out by himself and just freaking explode a shit ton of times lol. I forget exactly but couldnt he just summon his final bomb and then be de-summoned before it went off until gaara or whoever runs out of chakra.

This post was edited by Charity on May 21 2013 07:27pm
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May 21 2013 07:57pm
[QUOTE=Charity,21 May 2013 18:21)
asuma had it not been for kakuza's sewing shit beat hidan. So no any capable ninja could deal with hidan even if he was edo tensei since he would be sealed right after a major blow was dealt such as azuma slicing his head off lol.

Now deidara definitely shouldnt have been part of the scout team but go out by himself and just freaking explode a shit ton of times lol. I forget exactly but couldnt he just summon his final bomb and then be de-summoned before it went off until gaara or whoever runs out of chakra.[/QUOTE]

kakuza or another akaysuki member: hidan you wait here il be back with blood

hidan: ok

thats what im getting at hidan dosent have to be at the battle all he needs to do is chill

and the same for asuma if it wasent for shikamaru he would not come close to beating hidan either way hidan>asuma

and yeah about diedara that annoyed me too he could just do his huge 10km bomb over and over again
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May 22 2013 03:28am
how to improve your sharingang eye techniques? Bring some mirrors with you to a fight
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May 22 2013 04:01am
chapter up...

now even the 4th has the kyuubi chakra...

that chapter was predictable, except for the kyuubi
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