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Jan 31 2013 08:01am

Quote (Charity @ Jan 30 2013 10:20pm)

everything was revealed in this chapter.... what is so hard to understand?

maito gai 8 gates pleazseae?

It was shortly after they had control as they had a little convo with sarutobi.

But yeah i mentioned that when madara showed the counter but as i thought about it more i realized that when they were being sealed by the death god they again spoke to sarutobi even with the tags in them so it seems like the counter can only be used when one is being returned to the user or sealed.

The only thing i can think of is that had he went ahead with the counter madara used to overwrite edo tensei he then would have needed to remove oros other binding too or else he would still be under oros control.

pretty sure he isnt he was only cut open to release the seals he had im sure he regenerated lol.

They dont need their body they only need A body which in this case were the white zetsu's obito put in/on sasuke seriously dude this chapter explained it quite clearly.

Quote (Cyba @ Jan 31 2013 08:09am)

um... isn't edo tensei suppose to revive people in their prime? why is the third hokage still an old man?

Also this was the 1st thing I noticed when the kage were revived. They will realize the mistake and mystically un-age him? who knows. If he stays old.. its obvious they will not enter the battle, but will only be used for information

Would of been more fun to kill all the current kage and edo tensei them all to fight naruto O.o.. but then there would be flash backs to naruto impressing tsunade 3-4 times with rasengan, during the pain fight, then the sad parts of when jiriya died.... 4-5 weeks of flashbacks my god.

This post was edited by ZipperInYourMouth on Jan 31 2013 08:05am

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Jan 31 2013 10:36am

Quote (Cyba @ Jan 31 2013 07:09am)

um... isn't edo tensei suppose to revive people in their prime? why is the third hokage still an old man?

i dont think its in their prime madara was a special case...otherwise wouldnt haku grow to 25 or so

i do believe its just when they died and both the 1st and second died young

i did at first think it had to do with when the dna was taken but who knows!

Quote (ZipperInYourMouth @ Jan 31 2013 09:01am)

Actually they make a good point...
You need some type of dna material for the edo tensei.. Thats why Kabuto was grave robbing for goods and thats why Jiryia (sp) cannot be revived.. because he was tossed in the bottom of the ocean
Inb4zetsumimicsalldna... it was made 100% clear he needed to absorb chakra (or come in contact, w/e) with a body to mimic its chakra
Inb4those4specificzetsusfoughtall4kage.. Only one he should have ANY dna from is the 4th because he did make physical contact with him (if you count him being attached to obito, which I do)

Also this was the 1st thing I noticed when the kage were revived. They will realize the mistake and mystically un-age him? who knows. If he stays old.. its obvious they will not enter the battle, but will only be used for information

Would of been more fun to kill all the current kage and edo tensei them all to fight naruto O.o.. but then there would be flash backs to naruto impressing tsunade 3-4 times with rasengan, during the pain fight, then the sad parts of when jiriya died.... 4-5 weeks of flashbacks my god.

the third fighting now would would be fine he wouldnt have the weakness outside of maybe speed which he had fighting oro while alive.

Oh is that what he meant the dna not body to actually use edo tensei in the 1st 2nd and 4th we already know oro had them nothing says you have to reacquire the dna with the 3rd its easily explained like madara and the 1st oro took some of the thirds dna after his fight with him so yeah nothing really surprising about that

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Jan 31 2013 11:13am

Hmmm. The sacrifice needs to be alive in order to make the edo tensei work well, or at all. Sasuke just killed the original white Zetsu. Also, even though Zetsu's clones are special, they're still clones. Orochimaru may run into some problems later on because of that.

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Jan 31 2013 11:49am

Quote (Charity @ 31 Jan 2013 09:36)

i dont think its in their prime madara was a special case...otherwise wouldnt haku grow to 25 or so

i do believe its just when they died and both the 1st and second died young

no it is in their prime when obito was explained by kabuto

haku wasent 25 because he never grew to be 25

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Jan 31 2013 03:23pm

Quote (mcbatch @ Jan 31 2013 05:49pm)

no it is in their prime when obito was explained by kabuto

haku wasent 25 because he never grew to be 25

This is probably because the 3rd was in his prime at an older age. Early in the series it was often mentioned he was the master of 1000 jutsu, which I'm sure he obtained through experience. None of the other hokage reached old age. This doesn't mean the third is stronger than anyone, it just means his peak came with age.

About the revival:

I get all the Hokage's except the 4th. How was he revived? We can assume Oro had everything he needed for the 1st, and 2nd, could have obtained what he needed from the 3rd in that huge battle. How the hell did he bind the 4th's soul to anything? I thought it was lost, trapped inside the death god, and part inside naruto. I ask because I'm pretty sure it was mentioned it would be impossible to revive the 4th, otherwise Kabuto, or Oro would have done it.

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Jan 31 2013 03:34pm

Quote (TrouNce @ 31 Jan 2013 14:23)

it was explained in earlier posts and the chapter itself

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