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Mar 27 2009 07:42pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Fri, Mar 27 2009, 08:29pm)
i'm in no way surprised, and thats why I don't like it.  This sucks for 2 reasons.

1.  Everybody saw this coming from a mile away.
2.  Ichigo is now strong enough to pwn ulquirra without even trying.    This fight was built up for so long and now its just one rape after another and no real fighting.


what did you expect? they both have the same riatsu level and everything's the same? no, ulqiorra was stronger than ichigo before the fight regardless.. ofc it has to be one rape after another... the odds of ppl having the same skill level/spirit pressure is slim to none.. this was a factor that was made very obvious at the start of the show. if you're disappointed now, then i don't know what to say.
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Mar 27 2009 07:46pm
Quote (Cyba @ Fri, Mar 27 2009, 07:42pm)
what did you expect? they both have the same riatsu level and everything's the same? no, ulqiorra was stronger than ichigo before the fight regardless.. ofc it has to be one rape after another... the odds of ppl having the same skill level/spirit pressure is slim to none.. this was a factor that was made very obvious at the start of the show. if you're disappointed now, then i don't know what to say.


So, your saying that its only one in a million chance to actually have a good fight because the chances of peoples strengths being the same are so slim?

Excuse me for having my hopes up >_<



I don't see how that was made clear at the start of the show because we have had some good fights up until now, even though one person seems to find an upper hand to win, we have had some good fights regardless.

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Mar 27 2009 07:47pm
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Mar 27 2009 07:50pm
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So, your saying that its only one in a million chance to actually have a good fight because the chances of peoples strengths being the same are so slim?

Excuse me for having my hopes up >_<



I don't see how that was made clear at the start of the show because we have had some good fights up until now, even though one person seems to find an upper hand to win, we have had some good fights regardless.


I see what your saying, I expected a lot more outta the fight to. I mean, Ulquirria's strongest attack is just able to be stopped bare-handed? He also doesn't even attempt another cero...

He did say Ichigo at his strongest far surpasses him tho =\
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Mar 27 2009 07:57pm
Quote (Onceamule @ Fri, Mar 27 2009, 07:50pm)
I see what your saying, I expected a lot more outta the fight to. I mean, Ulquirria's strongest attack is just able to be stopped bare-handed? He also doesn't even attempt another cero...

He did say Ichigo at his strongest far surpasses him tho =\


Yeah, but I still expected more out of hte fight. I mean, how long was it leading up to this anyway? like 130 episodes worth?

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Mar 27 2009 07:58pm
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So, your saying that its only one in a million chance to actually have a good fight because the chances of peoples strengths being the same are so slim?

Excuse me for having my hopes up >_<



I don't see how that was made clear at the start of the show because we have had some good fights up until now, even though one person seems to find an upper hand to win, we have had some good fights regardless.


lol... it was made VERY clear at the start of the show... ichigo has mega spiritual pressure, therefore he rapes all the lowly hollows....then byakuya and renji who have shikai comes and rapes ichigo.....etc....someone's always going to have an upper hand.

all of ichigo's fights so far where he is about to lose, either:

1. someone comes and saves him
2. he uses some sort of hollow power..

for the fight with ulquoirra, he already used his mask power and was still loosing, so we know he's going to be using some other type of hollow power ... since the only badass hollow powers we see so far is the one where he fights the vizards... we can only guess this is what he's going to use.

imo the fights so far have all been good because they reveal something about someone's past during the fight which leads to dramatic effect and build up suspense and melancholy afterwards...so not only does it have action but was also informative...

i don't think it's over for ulquoirra yet though... they haven't revealed his past to anyone yet.... the commonality for bleach fights is that they reveal background info before someone "dies," for grimmjaw they showed his past before he got raped, and then they showed nnoitara's past before his rape, aaeronero told the audience about how he got his power, the 50 eyes guy told us some background info about himself...i haven't read the manga so i don't know if ulquoirra said nething about himself though xD...maybe shinji comes in and says "that's enough ichigo, don't let the hollow take over" or something =]

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lol... it was made VERY clear at the start of the show... ichigo has mega spiritual pressure, therefore he rapes all the lowly hollows....then byakuya and renji who have shikai comes and rapes ichigo.....etc....someone's always going to have an upper hand.

all of ichigo's fights so far where he is about to lose, either:

1. someone comes and saves him
2. he uses some sort of hollow power..

for the fight with ulquoirra, he already used his mask power and was still loosing, so we know he's going to be using some other type of hollow power ... since the only badass hollow powers we see so far is the one where he fights the vizards... we can only guess this is what he's going to use.

imo the fights so far have all been good because they reveal something about someone's past during the fight which leads to dramatic effect and build up suspense and melancholy afterwards...so not only does it have action but was also informative...

i don't think it's over for ulquoirra yet though... they haven't revealed his past to anyone yet.... the commonality for bleach fights is that they reveal background info before someone "dies," for grimmjaw they showed his past before he got raped, and then they showed nnoitara's past before his rape, aaeronero told the audience about how he got his power, the 50 eyes guy told us some background info about himself...i haven't read the manga so i don't know if ulquoirra said nething about himself though xD...maybe shinji comes in and says "that's enough ichigo, don't let the hollow take over" or something =]


Ichigo vs Byakuya was a good fight regardless of how he won, because before that it was an awesome fight. Not good vs evil just 2 people standing up for what they think is right. Also, it was nice for the person sporting black to be the good guy and the person with white power being bad for once lol.

I don't remember any backround info on the science hollow or the 50 eyed guy really. and if yammy is dead, we heard absolutely nothing about him, i'd like to find something out about him.

But either way, I don't see how you can't be dissapointed when it's been leading up to this for so long and he makes it so crappy. I think he is trying to get us to stop reading so he has to stop working orsomething >_<
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Mar 27 2009 08:09pm
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Ichigo vs Byakuya was a good fight regardless of how he won, because before that it was an awesome fight.  Not good vs evil just 2 people standing up for what they think is right.  Also, it was nice for the person sporting black to be the good guy and the person with white power being bad for once lol.

I don't remember any backround info on the science hollow or the 50 eyed guy really.  and if yammy is dead, we heard absolutely nothing about him, i'd like to find something out about him.

But either way, I don't see how you can't be dissapointed when it's been leading up to this for so long and he makes it so crappy.  I think he is trying to get us to stop reading so he has to stop working orsomething >_<


Don't remember that either. I don't think Yammy's dead, he might suck at fighting, but he also sucks at dieing tongue.gif
I'm iso Gin vs Hitsugaya still. That should be a good fight if he can survive vs Halibel.
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Mar 27 2009 08:13pm
Quote (Onceamule @ Fri, Mar 27 2009, 09:09pm)
Don't remember that either. I don't think Yammy's dead, he might suck at fighting, but he also sucks at dieing tongue.gif
I'm iso Gin vs Hitsugaya still. That should be a good fight if he can survive vs Halibel.


the 50 eye guy told why he was supporting aizen and the injustice he feels upon hollows... syazel apporo told us he was brothers with the guy renji killed... also his past was included in nnoitara's too

imma stop debating here neways.. i don't read the manga so i don't know how bad the current fight is lol

btw thor can u pm/post the chapter title for the hitsugaya past again? i accidentally deleted that pm while cleaning my pm box =[.. nvm i found it. chapter 304 lol.

This post was edited by Cyba on Mar 27 2009 08:15pm
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Mar 27 2009 08:23pm
Quote (Cyba @ Fri, Mar 27 2009, 08:13pm)
the 50 eye guy told why he was supporting aizen and the injustice he feels upon hollows... syazel apporo told us he was brothers with the guy renji killed... also his past was included in nnoitara's too

imma stop debating here neways.. i don't read the manga so i don't know how bad the current fight is lol

btw thor can u pm/post the chapter title for the hitsugaya past again? i accidentally deleted that pm while cleaning my pm box =[.. nvm i found it. chapter 304 lol.


Lemme give you a quick rundown.

Ichigo tries getsuga in normal mode vs untransformed uluquirra like 3 times. Goes hollow mask and hits him w/ it kinda. Uluquirra jumps up to top of las noches and transforms and butt rapes ichigo without any effort at all. Smashes his hollow mask w/ little to no effort. Getsuga doesn't even scratch him even with second stage red hollow mask. Then uluquirra transforms AGAIN and pwns him even harder and ceros him through the chest. Ichigo transforms into more hollow mode and annihilated ulquirra second stage without even trying. Uluquirra uses his strongest attack and ichigo blocks it 1 handed.
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Mar 27 2009 08:24pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Fri, 27 Mar 2009, 22:23)
Lemme give you a quick rundown.

Ichigo tries getsuga in normal mode vs untransformed uluquirra like 3 times.  Goes hollow mask and hits him w/ it kinda.  Uluquirra jumps up to top of las noches and transforms and butt rapes ichigo without any effort at all.  Smashes his hollow mask w/ little to no effort.  Getsuga doesn't even scratch him even with second stage red hollow mask.  Then uluquirra transforms AGAIN and pwns him even harder and ceros him through the chest.  Ichigo transforms into more hollow mode and annihilated ulquirra second stage without even trying.  Uluquirra uses his strongest attack and ichigo blocks it 1 handed.


Then slices him across the chest with his sword and cero's him in the face.
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