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Oct 10 2012 11:08am
Quote (rinirax @ Oct 10 2012 11:14am)
man, this guy has gotten me so furious ive forgot what happened the chapters before
youre right, yes.
kind of stupid of me, but the rest still stands



proof?
weve seen him use it once
e: dont want to be a dick, i know it says that in the wiki, but ive only seen danzo use it once


He used it at the Kage summit, and then during the battle he was biding time while waiting for the eye to finish repowering.

Pretty sure Kakashi went from 2 - MS because Obito did. I mean, the eyes are obviously connected. Kakashi seemed to have been knocked out by it though, and therefore unaware, which would explain him not knowing he could use it until Shippuden. My assumption is that the transition from 2 - MS is what knocked him out, as well, since he doesn't have the Senju DNA that Obito now has. If not, it could just be possible to go from 2 - MS. When did it ever say that was against the rules? I mean, Kakashi did just kill Rin.


This post was edited by WMKjsp on Oct 10 2012 11:11am
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I dont know what manga most of you kids are reading everything in my post was said to be true, rofl but here we go

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v49/c459/15.html <-- danzou using the eye at the summit,

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v51/c480/12.html <-- danzou about to use the eye fighting sasuke clearly not 10 years

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v51/c480/11.html <-- a tree erupting from danzous right shargian infused arm showing he had senju dna i.e 1st hokage dna infused in his arm to enhance his occular powers and inzangi and Kotoamatsukami

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v58/c550/9.html <-- itachi's crow using kotoamatsukami

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v58/c550/12.html <-- itachi saying it takes another 10 years for the eye to be usable

From the above we can clearly see senju dna, enhances the powers of the uchiha, which makes sense seeing senju is the yang to uchiha yin etc, so from this we can assume the reason obito went from 2 dot into MS was because he is fused with senju dna "zetsu grown from the 1st" and to be more specific his right side is fused with senju dna the same side his eye is on, oh btw madara lied when he said obito "sliped threw the rocks" he had zetsu bring obito there threw the rocks he was not brought there by chance.

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v60/c602/17.html <-- madara saying he attached a 1st hokage artificial body directly onto obito

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v60/c603// <-- zetsu telling obito he doesnt need to eat or drink water to live because he is fused with 1st hokage dna

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v60/c603/7.html <-- zetsu saying madara had them bring obito there

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v60/c603/14.html <-- obito with out the bandages showing the artificial body has completely fused with his normal body

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v53/c503/3.html <-- obito's arm oozing the white liquid from the rasengen from minato

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v51/c475/10.html <-- obito getting his right arm infected with the nano bugs

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v51/c475/11.html <-- obito physically tearing his own arm off to stop the spread of the infection then kicking it at his opponent

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v60/c603/20.html <-- obito punching the wall breaking his arm but you can see it turns into some sort of liquid and no bones to be seen, which means madara cut obito completely in half cut away the crushed original body and replaced it with the artificial body its assumed he simply plug obito into the mezo during the operation to keep him alive with only half a body

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v60/c605/17.html <-- obito using the mokuton also shows zetsu saying madara "chose" obito

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v60/c604/17.html <-- obito seeing from a first person point of view kakashi killing rin showing the eyes are linked

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v60/c605/8.html <-- obito awakening the MS and thus kakashi's eye is being awoken also because the two eyes are linked

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v60/c605/9.html <-- kakashi fainting because the activation of the MS was to much for his body and he prob was low on chakara due to the fighting beforehand , thus we can assume he has no memory of the event or that his eye even changes, and its not until he met itachi and saw the MS and realized the eye can still go further and spent time training to be able to awaken the eye at will, Or he could of read some of the stone tablet of the uchiha

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v60/c605/21.html <-- this is a reference to obito deciding to go ahead and join madara with the moon eye plan

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v60/c605/21.html <-- obito standing in the after math of killing 20+ anbu and jonin lvl ninja with all there blood dripping down on his self realizing what he has done and the implications of it meaning he is physical in hell cause of the scene and because he is mentally in hell because first hand he just experienced the cycle of hatred madara was talking about, his love for rin caused massive hate and thus he just murdered 20+ people and these people's family and friends will want to get there own revenge feeding into the failed existence of the ninja world there can not be peace with the current system in place. and obito realizing this thus decided to label the world as madara says as hell and deciding to join madara

--------------- ps here is obito showing he was scared of itachi so my previous statement of " itachi still solo's and tobi/ obito was holding back / scared of him has merit

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v44/c404/16.html <-- :p


If any of you have any more questions please feel free to ask

This post was edited by TotallyDelicious on Oct 10 2012 04:35pm
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I dont know what manga most of you kids are reading everything in my post was said to be true, rofl  but here we go

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v49/c459/15.html  <-- danzou using the eye at the summit,

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v51/c480/12.html <-- danzou about to use the eye fighting sasuke  clearly not 10 years

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v51/c480/11.html <-- a tree erupting from danzous right shargian  infused arm  showing he had  senju dna i.e  1st hokage dna  infused in his arm to enhance his occular powers and inzangi and Kotoamatsukami

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v58/c550/9.html <-- itachi's crow using kotoamatsukami

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v58/c550/12.html <--  itachi saying it takes another  10 years for the eye to be usable 

From the above we can clearly see  senju dna,  enhances the powers of the uchiha, which makes sense seeing senju is the yang  to uchiha yin  etc,  so from this we can assume the reason  obito went from 2 dot into  MS  was because he is fused with senju dna "zetsu grown from the 1st"  and to be more specific his right side is fused with senju dna  the same side his eye is on, oh btw madara lied when he said  obito "sliped threw the rocks"  he had zetsu  bring obito there threw the rocks  he was not brought there by chance.

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v60/c602/17.html <-- madara saying he attached a 1st hokage artificial body  directly onto obito

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v60/c603//  <-- zetsu telling obito he doesnt need to eat or drink water to live  because he is fused with 1st hokage dna

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v60/c603/7.html  <-- zetsu saying madara had them bring obito there

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v60/c603/14.html <-- obito with out the bandages  showing the  artificial body has completely fused with his normal body

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v53/c503/3.html <-- obito's arm oozing the white liquid from the rasengen from minato

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v51/c475/10.html <-- obito getting his right arm infected with the nano bugs 

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v51/c475/11.html <-- obito physically tearing his own arm off  to stop the spread of the infection then kicking it at his opponent

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v60/c603/20.html <-- obito punching the wall  breaking his arm  but you can see it turns into some sort of liquid and no bones to be seen,  which means madara  cut obito completely in half  cut away the crushed  original body and replaced it with the artificial body  its assumed he simply plug obito into the mezo  during the operation to keep him alive with only half a body

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v60/c605/17.html  <-- obito using the mokuton also shows zetsu saying madara  "chose" obito 

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v60/c604/17.html <-- obito seeing  from a first person point of view kakashi killing rin  showing the eyes are linked

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v60/c605/8.html  <-- obito awakening the MS  and thus  kakashi's eye  is being awoken also  because the two eyes are linked

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v60/c605/9.html <-- kakashi fainting because the activation of the MS was to much for his body and he prob was low on chakara  due to the fighting beforehand , thus we can assume  he has no memory of the event  or that his eye even changes, and its not until he met itachi and saw the MS and realized  the eye can still go further  and spent time training to be able to awaken the eye at will,  Or he could of read some of the stone tablet  of the uchiha

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v60/c605/21.html <--  this is a reference  to obito deciding to go ahead and join madara  with the moon eye plan 

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v60/c605/21.html <--  obito standing in the after math of killing  20+ anbu and jonin lvl ninja  with all there blood dripping down on his self  realizing what he has done  and the implications of it meaning  he is physical in hell cause of the scene and because he is mentally in hell because  first hand he just experienced the cycle of hatred  madara was talking about, his love for rin caused massive hate  and thus he just murdered 20+ people  and these people's family and friends will want  to get there own revenge feeding into the failed existence of the ninja world  there can not be peace with the current system in place.  and obito realizing this  thus decided to label the world as madara says  as hell and deciding to join madara

---------------  ps here is  obito showing he was scared of itachi so my previous statement of  " itachi still solo's and tobi/ obito was holding back / scared of him has merit 

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v44/c404/16.html <--  :p


If any of you  have any more questions  please feel free to ask


u pm me like youre a bigshot and the first point youre trying to prove is already false
danzou was not using kotoamatsukami in the fight vs sasuke
the only proof about senju dna enhancing the sharingan was the chapter from last week, where zetsu hints at it
this however doesnt neccessarily have to do with obito going from 2 tomoe to mangekyou, as this is the first time that has happened and with only 1 example, we cannot
make assumptions if that wouldve not worked for any uchiha without senju dna

then you post a shitton of proof for something i admitted i was wrong about. can you even read ?
and after that you show me that zetsu is using mokuton but you insist that it was actually obito using it.

you still have no clue but i appreciate the effort
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Quote (rinirax @ Oct 10 2012 05:50pm)
u pm me like youre a bigshot and the first point youre trying to prove is already false
danzou was not using kotoamatsukami in the fight vs sasuke
the only proof about senju dna enhancing the sharingan was the chapter from last week, where zetsu hints at it
this however doesnt neccessarily have to do with obito going from 2 tomoe to mangekyou, as this is the first time that has happened and with only 1 example, we cannot
make assumptions if that wouldve not worked for any uchiha without senju dna

then you post a shitton of proof for something i admitted i was wrong about. can you even read ?
and after that you show me that zetsu is using mokuton but you insist that it was actually obito using it.

you still have no clue but i appreciate the effort


http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v51/c480/12.html <-- obito says " so your eye is working again , saying its off its cool down zzzzz my first point is not false
http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v51/c478/10.html <-- obito saying , i see no wonder u can control that many shargians implying the senju dna helps etc...
http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v54/c510/10.html <-- obito saying those with both the power of senju and uchiha can use inzangi implying senju chakara helps uchiha dojutsu significantly

also that post was not just directed at you i was for a lot of other kids who had questions you were not the only person i sent a pm too zzzz dont stand so tall

And its obvious the reason obito went to MS so easily during his time of stress compared to others is because he has senju dna thus he is creating senju chakara and that chakara enhances the shargian, We can see he clearly has senju chakara because his mokuton is coming only from his right side so we can assert its not the zetsu suit doing the wood style its obito his self , and we see danzou being able to use the Kotoamatsukami daily , just because he didnt use it twice means nothing because we have cannon characters stating he can use it obito even goes as far to say " danzou cant decided wether to use the Kotoamatsukami or use shiuis eye for inzangi

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v51/c480/13.html <-- tobis comment

you either just have extremely poor reading comprehension or you know your wrong but just wont admit it

Obito's MS is on his right side and that right side is 100% completely senju artificial body and senju chakara enchances the shargian, it just make sense for obito being able to activate the MS easier then most,

and i find this " i have no clue" funny as hell because you just said earlier " obito did not fuse with zetsu" :rofl:

This post was edited by TotallyDelicious on Oct 10 2012 05:15pm
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Quote (FamilyGuyViewer @ Oct 10 2012 07:50am)
Dumb chapter all it really confirmed was how they got ms and a bunch of fighting scenes goin "ooooh"


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Quote (TotallyDelicious @ 11 Oct 2012 01:11)
http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v51/c480/12.html <-- obito says  " so your eye is working again ,  saying its off its cool down zzzzz  my first point is not false
http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v51/c478/10.html <-- obito saying  , i see no wonder u can control that many shargians  implying  the senju dna  helps  etc...
http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v54/c510/10.html <-- obito saying  those with both the power of senju and uchiha can use  inzangi  implying  senju chakara  helps uchiha dojutsu significantly

also  that post was not just directed at you  i was for a lot of other kids who had questions    you were not the only person i sent a pm too zzzz dont stand so tall

And its obvious the reason  obito went to MS so easily during his time of stress compared to others is because he has  senju dna  thus he is creating  senju chakara  and that chakara enhances the shargian,  We can see he clearly has senju chakara because  his mokuton is coming only from his right side  so we can assert  its not the zetsu suit doing the wood style its  obito his self ,  and we see  danzou  being able to use the Kotoamatsukami daily ,  just because he didnt use it twice  means nothing because we have  cannon  characters  stating he can use it obito even goes as far to say  " danzou cant decided wether to use the Kotoamatsukami or  use shiuis eye for inzangi 

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v51/c480/13.html  <-- tobis comment

you either just have extremely poor reading comprehension  or you know your wrong  but just wont admit it

Obito's MS  is on his right side  and that right side is 100% completely senju artificial body    and senju chakara  enchances  the shargian,  it just make sense  for  obito being able to activate the MS easier then most,

and i find this " i have no clue"  funny as hell because you just said  earlier  "  obito did not fuse with zetsu"    :rofl:


its funny how you go from "weve seen it once" to "it has to be"
i dont like to repeat the same shit over and over again, so im going to leave this topic until you find me proof that danzou has been using komoamatsukami more than once in 10 years
which means ill never return. which has a highly positive side, since i dont want to waste too much time arguing with you.
if you think youre in the right, so be it. enjoy the upcoming chapters and take care

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Quote (rinirax @ Oct 10 2012 11:08am)
first off, its called tomoe < neat u picked out a typo
2nd of all, nowhere does it say that obito fused with zetsu and thus gained senju dna <-- i proved obito is fused with zetsu and  senju dna
what we see here is nothing else than zetsu going on rampage, obito isnt doing shit.  <-- i proved  obito is using mokuton his self and its not simply zetsu on a rampage " the mokuton is only coming from the right side of obito"
he cant even control kamui, that thing activated itself in the battle. <- obito is doing a fucking boss job on controling kamui  slipping past the 20 ninja he is fighting then being able to hit them,  obito can not hit you if he is phasing
and no, he doesnt use wood release. thats zetsus doing.  <-  as above its clearly obito using the wood due it only being from the right side  plus the zetsu suit  confrims  he is using the wood style
that "dabzou" guy, which doesnt even exist btw, wasnt able to use shisuis eye more than once per decade either, no idea where you picked that up  <- obito says  danzou can use the eye , and danzou would of used it but he was killed before he had a chance
youre talking so much trash i dont even know if youve been reading the manga or if you have a mentally handicapped japanese friend that sends you a roughly translated email about what happened in naruto every week  <-- no need for insults when im 100% right and your clearly wrong


Oh look its obito using mokuton not the zetsu suit if it was zetsu suit the mokuton would be coming from all sides of the body not just one




Quote (rinirax @ Oct 10 2012 06:24pm)
its funny how you go from "weve seen it once" to "it has to be"
i dont like to repeat the same shit over and over again, so im going to leave this topic until you find me a proof that danzou has been using komoamatsukami more than once in 10 years
which means ill never return. which has a highly positive side, since i dont want to waste too much time arguing with you.
if you think youre in the right, so be it. enjoy the upcoming chapters and take care



dafuq? so u know im right but are still sticking your fingers in your ears saying ananananananananana

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v51/c480/13.html <-- obito a person who has mastered MS and trained under the guidance of Madara says danzou can use the eye with in a day of him previously using it at the summit, Is not proof enough for you ? Danzou does not want to use the dojutsu because he is saving it to use on who he believes is madara but we all know is obito , this is why he takes karin captive he does not think sasuke will hurt her he does not want to waste his last and most powerful tech on sasuke with obito sitting so close by .

Its fucking obvious that danzou can use the eye daily as opposed to itachi who can use it once a decade, its fucking obvious the senju dna enhances the dojutsu of the uchiha , How else do you explain a non uchiha like danzou being able to use it daily when a uchiha genius like itachi can only use it once a decade?


Sit the Fuck Down, your wrong on so many points

This post was edited by TotallyDelicious on Oct 10 2012 05:33pm
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Quote (rinirax @ Oct 10 2012 06:24pm)
its funny how you go from "weve seen it once" to "it has to be"
i dont like to repeat the same shit over and over again, so im going to leave this topic until you find me proof that danzou has been using komoamatsukami more than once in 10 years
which means ill never return. which has a highly positive side, since i dont want to waste too much time arguing with you.
if you think youre in the right, so be it. enjoy the upcoming chapters and take care


I mean if you're really getting picky, yeah he didn't use it a second time, but he was clearly waiting to do so in the fight. There are a lot of places where its made clear Senju DNA enhances Uchiha powers. Only thing that isn't fact in what he said is that we are just assuming its impossible to go from 2 tomb to MS without Senju DNA, which could very well be true. I don't see how it matters. The Senju DNA allowed him to gain that power without passing out like Kakashi did.

Will you two stop fighting? Kinda silly lol
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Quote (WMKjsp @ Oct 10 2012 06:37pm)
I mean if you're really getting picky, yeah he didn't use it a second time, but he was clearly waiting to do so in the fight. There are a lot of places where its made clear Senju DNA enhances Uchiha powers. Only thing that isn't fact in what he said is that we are just assuming its impossible to go from 2 tomb to MS without Senju DNA, which could very well be true. I don't see how it matters. The Senju DNA allowed him to gain that power without passing out like Kakashi did.

Will you two stop fighting? Kinda silly lol


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