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Sep 7 2012 05:19pm
Quote (Charity @ Sep 7 2012 06:12pm)
no one is due to their own power the other was "granted" to them without a choice in the matter(maybe bee had a choice)

its basically borrowing power as opposed to the uchiha who earn it

its also different from kabuto's way of gaining power


o you still going on and on about how guy is the strongest in the manga?


rofl

guy is all right he is top tier for sure but he is far far from god like status of other characters

just off the top of my head characters who are stronger then might guy

Naruto
Sasuke
Madara
Tobi
2nd raikage
Bee
1st hokage
2nd hokage
4th hokage
nagato
itachi
jiraiya
kakashi
2nd tsukage

This post was edited by TotallyDelicious on Sep 7 2012 05:20pm
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Sep 7 2012 05:40pm
Quote (Charity @ Sep 7 2012 06:12pm)
no one is due to their own power the other was "granted" to them without a choice in the matter(maybe bee had a choice)

its basically borrowing power as opposed to the uchiha who earn it

its also different from kabuto's way of gaining power


I didn't realize being born in a clan was earning something. Sasuke "borrowed" Itachi's eyes for EMS cus his dumbass was going blind, lmao. So regardless IMO, blind Sasuke vs Naruto without Kyuubi = Naruto win ^_^
I don't see it how you do, I guess.
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Sep 7 2012 05:44pm
Quote (TotallyDelicious @ Sep 7 2012 07:19pm)
o you still going on and on about how guy is the strongest in the manga?


rofl

guy is all right he is top tier for sure  but he is far far from god like status of other characters

just off the top of my head characters who are stronger then might  guy

Naruto
Sasuke
Madara
Tobi
2nd raikage 
Bee
1st hokage
2nd hokage
4th hokage
nagato
itachi
jiraiya
kakashi
2nd tsukage


for starters in this quote that definitely wasnt the case nor is it ever the case. Also PLEASE provide proof to these "facts" you just listed you cant therefore its an opinion same as mine that maito gai is number 1! thx

you seem not to understand what opinions are and just because you dont agree with mine doesnt mean yours are any better

you named 1 2 4 hokages but not the 3rd who was stronger? same with the 2nd tsukikage but not that oil kage dude who beat him

bee was drained by kisame and had it been 1 v 1 at that point he would have lost?

you named a heap of dead people and one who died but came back OH HI kakashi

when have you seen the 2nd raikage fight? i think you meant the 3rd aka a dead person yet again

if edo is fine then lets have gai go edo become free go 8 gates all day long thx

kakashi hell no is he stronger. naruto bee sasuke tobi PFFFFFFT they wish

ofc i understand rock paper scissors but gai is more like nuclear bomb MUAH

Quote (steaksauce1 @ Sep 7 2012 07:40pm)
I didn't realize being born in a clan was earning something. Sasuke "borrowed" Itachi's eyes for EMS cus his dumbass was going blind, lmao. So regardless IMO, blind Sasuke vs Naruto without Kyuubi = Naruto win ^_^
I don't see it how you do, I guess.


unlike the byakugan you actually have to acquire the sharingan. the beast in the jinchuriki has been shown to protect the host wanting to stay alive so far in the manga.

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I thought to get the sharingan something has to happen? In a life or death situation or something, I don't remember, but I don't really consider that earning.


hrm i dont think the women uchiha got it by burning rice or anything but im pretty sure the battle uchiha who trained were the ones to get it not the domestic uchihas and even then all of them didnt

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for starters in this quote that definitely wasnt the case nor is it ever the case

great we both have opinions however i tend to use the manga to support mine

you named 1 2 4 hokages but not the 3rd who was stronger?

bee was drained by kisame and had it been 1 v 1 at that point he would have lost?

you named a heap of dead people and one who died but came back OH HI kakashi

when have you seen the 2nd raikage fight? i think you meant the 3rd aka a dead person yet again

if edo is fine then lets have gai go edo become free go 8 gates all day long thx

kakashi hell no is he stronger. naruto bee sasuke tobi PFFFFFFT they wish



unlike the byakugan you actually have to acquire the sharingan. the beast in the jinchuriki has been shown to protect the host wanting to stay alive so far in the manga.


I thought to get the sharingan something has to happen? In a life or death situation or something, I don't remember, but I don't really consider that earning.
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hrm i dont think the women uchiha got it by burning rice or anything but im pretty sure the battle uchiha who trained were the ones to get it not the domestic uchihas and even then all of them didnt


I don't think burning rice is tragic, nor a life or death situation. Both Sasuke and Naruto have had crutches to help them in battle. Naruto has the nine tails, Sasuke had the curse mark and has Itachi's eyes now.
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Sep 7 2012 05:56pm
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I don't think burning rice is tragic, nor a life or death situation. Both Sasuke and Naruto have had crutches to help them in battle. Naruto has the nine tails, Sasuke had the curse mark and has Itachi's eyes now.


hrm i think the eye thing can be seen as natural in the uchiha clan however when i said without the beast i meant that how sasuke suppressed the 9tails before he could do it again and have naruto fight in sage mode without the 9tails help. i didnt mean never had it

also back to my hate for kakashi but has kakashi beaten anyone 1 v 1? zabuza maybe where as gai has taken on the no tail beast 1 v 1 come on son kakashi needs support so much for those 1k jutsu

Quote (steaksauce1 @ Sep 7 2012 07:57pm)
Mm, who knows, some bs can always happen to where "Since Naruto bonded with the nine tails they can't suppress its power anymore"
NarutoLogic/10


ofc we have no way of knowing the outcome of any fight unless kishi himself writes it

when we discuss fights that havent occurred in the manga its simply a debate trying to use persuasion, pretty words, some sources etc to get the other participant(s) to agree with you. Nothing can be proven without the author writing it in the manga

pakkun could beat madara cause he's allergic to dogs... naruto can fart and beat kiba cause of his 100xsmell nose OHH WAIT

This post was edited by Charity on Sep 7 2012 06:02pm
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hrm i think the eye thing can be seen as natural in the uchiha clan however when i said without the beast i meant that how sasuke suppressed the 9tails before he could do it again and have naruto fight in sage mode without the 9tails help. i didnt mean never had it


Mm, who knows, some bs can always happen to where "Since Naruto bonded with the nine tails they can't suppress its power anymore"
NarutoLogic/10


Lol'd @ the edit.

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for starters in this quote that definitely wasnt the case nor is it ever the case. Also PLEASE provide proof to these "facts" you just listed you cant therefore its an opinion same as mine that maito gai is number 1! thx

you seem not to understand what opinions are and just because you dont agree with mine doesnt mean yours are any better

you named 1 2 4 hokages but not the 3rd who was stronger? same with the 2nd tsukikage but not that oil kage dude who beat him

bee was drained by kisame and had it been 1 v 1 at that point he would have lost?

you named a heap of dead people and one who died but came back OH HI kakashi

when have you seen the 2nd raikage fight? i think you meant the 3rd aka a dead person yet again

if edo is fine then lets have gai go edo become free go 8 gates all day long thx

kakashi hell no is he stronger. naruto bee sasuke tobi PFFFFFFT they wish

ofc i understand rock paper scissors but gai is more like nuclear bomb MUAH



unlike the byakugan you actually have to acquire the sharingan. the beast in the jinchuriki has been shown to protect the host wanting to stay alive so far in the manga.



hrm i dont think the women uchiha got it by burning rice or anything but im pretty sure the battle uchiha who trained were the ones to get it not the domestic uchihas and even then all of them didnt


3nd raikage is probably the strongest character in the show period,

he took a full rasgen sshirkuian to the face and it didnt even scratch him, and this was his normal body not the edo regen bull crap, the only way naruto was able to hurt him was to reflect his own attack against himself, this dude uses the same tech as the 4rd raikage the lighting armor to move super fast and to augment his attacks into piercing attacks just like kakashi chidori, but he uses all this with the black lighting im not all to sure how different black lighting it from normal but its implied it much stronger and i i meant to add the 3rd hokage into that last , and no i dont think the 4th raikage is stronger then guy and all the dead people im talking about im using them in there prime not as edo reborn, if this was the case the the strongest character easily will be Dedira just doing is atomic blast over and over

and naruto is easily stronger then guy rofl naruto is said to be of comparable speed of minato and minato used instant teleportation and naruto is simply running im pretty sure bijuu dama blast and bijuu dama rasgens are stronger then the morning peacock the fox could up root a whole mountain with its tail and naruto has all that power at his disposal , sasuke meh that was a leap id assume he will be shown stronger shortly due to plot armor,

and kakashi is clearly better then guy, guys biggest weapon his his gates, kakashi is a fucking genius and he has shown to open the first gate it would be obvious he could open the other 7 if he wanted, the mother fucker master the shargian by his self with no help from the uchiha clan that son of a bitch grad the academy at age 5 and became a jonin at 9 the dude is as smart as shikamaru, has a nose as good as kiabis, has copied over 1000 justsu, he can use all 4 nature types plus yin and yang based attacks, he can cast some pretty boss gentsu, he used simple gentsu to put to sleep several members of the anbu black opps root division these anbu are trained like dogs for years and years and then are forced to fight each other so only the strong live to make into the program, Fuck dude you might as well rename the whole manga to Kakashi, seeing as he the most personal relationship with the final boss tobi/ obito and has as much plot armor as naruto

This post was edited by TotallyDelicious on Sep 7 2012 06:29pm
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2nd raikage is probably the strongest  character in the show period,

he took a full  rasgen sshirkuian to the face  and it didnt even scratch him,  and this was his normal body  not the edo regen bull crap,  the only way naruto was able to hurt him was to reflect his own attack against himself,  this dude uses the same tech as the 3rd raikage the lighting armor to move super fast  and to augment his attacks into piercing attacks  just like kakashi chidori, but he uses all this with the black lighting  im not all to sure how  different black lighting it from normal but its implied it  much stronger  and i i meant to add the 3rd hokage into that last  ,  and no i dont think the 3rd raikage is stronger then guy  and all the dead people im talking about  im using them in there prime  not as edo reborn,  if this was the case the the strongest  character easily will be Dedira  just doing is atomic blast over and over

and  naruto is easily stronger then guy rofl naruto is said to be of comparable speed of minato and minato used  instant teleportation and naruto is simply running im pretty sure  bijuu dama  blast and bijuu dama  rasgens are stronger then the morning peacock the fox could up root a whole mountain with its tail and naruto has all that power at his disposal  ,  sasuke meh that was a leap  id assume he will be shown stronger shortly due to plot armor, 

and kakashi is clearly better then guy, guys biggest weapon his his gates,  kakashi is a fucking genius and he has shown to open the first gate  it would be obvious he could open the other 7 if he wanted,  the mother fucker master the shargian by his self with no help from the uchiha clan  that son of a bitch grad the academy at age 5 and became a jonin at 9  the dude is as smart as shikamaru, has a nose as good as kiabis,  has copied over 1000 justsu,  he can use all 4 nature types  plus  yin and yang based attacks,  he can cast some pretty boss gentsu,  he used simple gentsu to put to sleep several members of the anbu black opps root division these anbu are trained like dogs for years and years  and then are forced to fight each other so only the strong live to make into the program,  Fuck dude you might as well rename the whole manga to  Kakashi,  seeing as he the most personal relationship with the final boss tobi/ obito  and has as much plot armor as naruto


Considering Amaterasu is black flames, I'd assume black lightning would be the shit. I haven't seen the 2nd Raikage, maybe I should go on a Naruto marathon o.o
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Considering Amaterasu is black flames, I'd assume black lightning would be the shit. I haven't seen the 2nd Raikage, maybe I should go on a Naruto marathon o.o





and i made a mistake i thought the current 4th raikage was the 3rd rakage and the 3rd raikage as seen above was the 2nd
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