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I don't think he's the real OBITO. There is no way Obito could turn into an alpha dog.
shinobi who mastered S/T phasing and.
teleportation within a 1 year time frame. At 14
years old? No way... There is also no way Obito would know how to extract the Kyuubi, hypnotize.
it, control it like a puppet, and then summon it.
wherever the hell he wants to. And all of this is.
supposed to have happened 1-2 years after Obito.
supposedly died? That’s just not feasible.
To prove it was only a year from obito going from useless beta to alpha
We meet kakashi at age 26 in part 1 and naruto is 12 thats 14 year difference,
26- 12 = 14  the attack on the leaf from tobi happened when kakashi was 14 " same day naruto was born"
kakashi became a jonin at age 13 right before the mission to destroy the bridge.  So only a year could of passed


Plothole Number 2: Personality U-turn (chapter 241.page 19).
"Of course those in the ninja world who break the.
rules and regulations are called trash... but those
who don’t care about their companions are even.
worse than trash." Will of Fire talk from Obito. It makes no sense for.
him to suddenly manifest this unwavering.
vendetta against Konoha unless Tobi is just using.
Obito’s body as a vessel, in which case, Tobi isn’t.
really Obito anyway because his soul and spirit.
have nothing to do with it.

Plothole Number 3: Kushina Quote (chapter 501.page 7).
"Do you have ANY idea how long I’ve waited for.
this moment?" It’s a complete contradiction for.
Obito to say something like that when,
hypothetically, he wouldn’t have been alive long enough to make that type of comment because.
Obito would have been 14 years old if he fought.
Minato. Tobi has probably had to wait DECADES for.
the opportunity to extract the Kyuubi from its host.

Plothole Number 4: Kyuubi recognized Tobi. (chapter 501 page 8 ).
The Kyuubi actually recognizes Tobi and possibly.
knows who he is. If THAT doesn’t convince you,
nothing will. The Kyuubi made a direct transfer.
from being sealed into Mito to being sealed into Kushina, so there is a fundamental contradiction for.
the Kyuubi to recognize anyone in the outside.
world when it was sealed for all that time. If the
Kyuubi actually recognized Tobi, it means Tobi has.
to be someone who was alive during Hashirama/.
Madara’s generation.

Plothole Number 5: Tobi is too tall (chapter 503. page 9).
Tobi was shown to be adult sized when he fought.
Minato, chapter 503 page 5. But on page 9, Kakashi,
Gai, Asuma and Kurenai are all shown to be much.
shorter as they are going through adolescence. Obito would have been around that size and is.
therefore too short to be Tobi.

Plothole Number 6: Minato would’ve figured it out. (chapter 500-504).
If Tobi was really Obito, then Minato would have.
figured it out when they were fighting each other.
Obito was Minato’s own student and would have.
recognized his chakra, but he didn’t.

Plothole Number 7: This is HIS doing (chapter 560. page 2).
Madara says "This is HIS doing."  Then kabuto goes on to say to madara
" I'm Kabuto His assistant"  That means Madara knows.
exactly who Tobi is, but there is no way Madara.
could have worked with Obito because Madara.
had died already. We know this because by the time Nagato gets Madara's Rinnegan
Madara is officially dead - "I awakened these eyes.
shortly before my death." (chapter 560 page 15).
This is important because Nagato is older than.
Minato, and Minato is older than Obito.  Madara had to die
during or before the 2nd wolrd war.

Plothole Number 8: Hashirama Comparison (chapter. 462 page 14).
Tobi says to Naruto "I can see the first Hokage in.
you." To make that type of comparison Tobi must.
have known what Hashirama was like as a person.
Problem is, Hashirama was dead before Obito was born.


Plothole Number 9: During Our Battle (chapter 512. page 9).
"This is something I grew from living tissue I stole.
from him during our battle." Kabuto already.
revealed the Madara coffin so there was no reason.
for Tobi to keep lying. So if Tobi actually had a fight with Hashirama there is no way he could be Obito.

Plothole Number 10: Too Much Knowledge.
It is impossible for Obito to know so much about.
the bloody history between the Senju clan and the.
Uchiha clan before Konoha was even established.
as a shinobi village. Tobi has to be someone from.
that generation. It is also impossible for Obito to know so much about Rikudou Sennin, his sons, the.
Bijuu and the Juubi.

THE BIGGEST PLOTHOLE OF THEM ALL. Plothole Number 11: Nagato is much older than.Obito.
Why is this important? Because Madara GAVE Nagato.
the Rinnegan, Then died. In other words, it is impossible for.
Madara to have met Obito, Madara knew about tobi and talked of him to
kabuto but he was dead long before Obito was born

Quote (nickchoi @ Sep 4 2012 11:26pm)

Chapter is coming out today!

Quote (Electronic @ Sep 4 2012 11:42pm)

I am prepared for some bullshit but hope we get information about why Obito is there now.

Quote (steaksauce1 @ Sep 4 2012 09:46pm)

Lol, I ain't even pumped like I was last week.

Quote (Electronic @ Sep 4 2012 11:59pm)

Nobody is. That issue was one every fan was waiting for.

Quote (ZipperInYourMouth @ Sep 4 2012 10:39pm)

It looks like my idea was the actual one thats going to be happening.. 10 points to me
(recap with more info put in)

A:
Obito was crushed : Tobi was constantly slothing off damaged parts in battle. He stated at the kage summit that he is too weak due to damage he sustained in previous battles (he said with the 1st, but he is not madara so I assumed being crushed by the cave.
B:
Obito was a kid / he wasn't evil when he was truely obito: Whos to say, since Zetsu is "one with the earth", that he is not of senju dna? And he needed Obito's Uchiha to become the sage of the 6 paths. Maybe tobi is just the innocent Obito, but Zetsu took over his body / brainwashed him into a type of "The leaf got you killed, let me fuse with your body and heal you and you can take revenge on them" Type of deal
As for him being a kid, He could be in a situation like Jugo where he was once a kid, but when zetsu fused with him, he became an adult looking form (Like when jugo was a kid, but killed / absorbed the soilder he killed and became an adult again. This is even further supported when Tobi was unmasked to show Obito... Half of him is old, aka the legit Obito, and the other half is young, aka the zetsu half. He has already shown what his spore clones can do by perfectly imitating someones chakra and appearance even after death, whos to say he didn't seed off part of himself to make obito complete so he wouldn't die from being crushed?

post 2:
Similar to Jugo, Zetsu may of offered Obito further life other than just dying under a rock by fusing his white self with obito.
I am assuming Zetsu is senju and wanted an uchiha mixed into him.
Similar to when jugo absorbed a guard and went from small to big again, that is what could of happened with Obito... along with White Zetsu's evil intentions taking over Obito's psyche.
Along with that, until Tobi fought Konan, he only showed one sharingan.. When he fought her, he had 2, which could be attributed to him killing the clan and having 50+ sharingan on-hand
Not to mention if Madara really created origional zetsu (which I believe is completely incorrect information, I am talking about the origional Zetsu not more clone white zetsues) That would attribute why Tobi was so angry when he learned nagato brought the Hidden leaf back to life instead of madara, because he wanted to bring his creator back to the living world.

He would need to pick an uchiha that was weak enough to fully control. We see that uchiha who are strong, such as Sasuke, are not as easy to control (even though he was sick, using orochimaru's little body xfer shit as an example), whereas Zetsu could of had the better idea and take control of him while he is weak..
Its really not that hard to believe that Obito gained skill enough to fight minato if it wasn't technically him in control, it was Zetsu using Obito.. (Zetsu's experience, Obito's powers)
Not that hard to believe that a year+ after obito "died" of non-stop training that he possibly opened a 3-tomb sharingan, upgraded to mangenkyo, and learned his true skill by killing the uchiha clan and reading the tablets.
Top of page so you must read me! muahaha

Quote (FamilyGuyViewer @ Sep 5 2012 01:21am)

Not bad makes a lot of sense



Btw how do u know their gonna go wit ur story line? 600 isn't  out yet