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Aug 27 2012 01:09pm
Quote (Juicy_J @ Aug 27 2012 12:34pm)
Maybe.


I don't think so, that boy was in a tragic accident wasn't he? I recall Tsunade seeing him disembodied and what not, but this is an anime so meh.
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Aug 27 2012 03:47pm
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I don't think so, that boy was in a tragic accident wasn't he? I recall Tsunade seeing him disembodied and what not, but this is an anime so meh.


we never saw the body under the sheet,

its implied Oro was the leader of that group of genin and they ran into some explosion, meh its implied oro was the one leading that group of genins, so Oro could of been there teacher like kakashi was to team 7, its pure speculation but nawaki could of shown signs for wood style, and so oro abducted him and put in his place a body that was so mutilated its was un recognizable and simply put the necklace on it and some clothing made some bull shit story and showed pervy sage then, pervy sage bought it cause he looked up to oro so much and the 5th was convinced with out looking he was dead. Oro helped danzou with his senju dna crap, Oro obv showed an interest with the babies and danzou, its obvious his ultimate goal was to clone some perfect uchiha/ senju hybrid then use the body switch jutsu and become the next sage of 6 paths , So why wouldn't he want to experiment on a direct blood line senju from the 1st not to mention that senju is part uzmaki

the above is a reason for the abduction its just speculation on my part , But oro main goal was to learn all the jutsu in the world and being the sage of 6 path with the rinnigian and all nature types would def help that goal

nawaki could of escaped some how then madara picked him up and turned him into tobi
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Aug 27 2012 05:05pm
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That's probably what would happen if logic were in place in this story. The Rasengan: an absolutely devastatingly powerful single blow that's been shown to obliterate whatever it hits. Tobi just took one to the face. Is he going to be alive and well next chapter? Yes.
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we never saw the body under the sheet,

its implied Oro was the leader of that group of genin and they ran into some explosion,  meh its implied oro was the one leading that group of genins, so Oro could of been there teacher like kakashi was to team 7, its pure speculation but nawaki could of shown signs for wood style, and so oro abducted him and put in his place a body that was so mutilated its was un recognizable and simply put the necklace on it and some clothing made some bull shit story and showed pervy sage then, pervy sage bought it cause he looked up to oro so much and the 5th was convinced with out looking he was dead. Oro helped danzou with his senju dna crap, Oro obv showed an interest with the babies and danzou, its obvious his ultimate goal was to clone some perfect uchiha/ senju hybrid then use the body switch jutsu and become the next sage of 6 paths , So why wouldn't he want to experiment on a direct blood line senju from the 1st not to mention that senju is part uzmaki

the above is a reason for the abduction  its just speculation on my part , But oro main goal was to learn all the jutsu in the world  and being the sage of 6 path with the rinnigian  and all nature types would def help that goal

nawaki could of escaped some how then madara picked him up and turned him into tobi


Maybe, but I never really saw much on that incident. But that wouldn't really impact anyone except for Tsunade.. And why would he ride Madara's dick so hard? Wouldn't he be with Oro?
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Aug 27 2012 07:26pm
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Maybe, but I never really saw much on that incident. But that wouldn't really impact anyone except for Tsunade.. And why would he ride Madara's dick so hard? Wouldn't he be with Oro?


would u want to escape the person doing countless experiments on u ?
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would u want to escape the person doing countless experiments on u ?


Doesn't explain why he dick rides Madara. I was going with the assumption that Oro convinced him, like we all know he's good at doing.
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Aug 27 2012 07:40pm
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Doesn't explain why he dick rides Madara. I was going with the assumption that Oro convinced him, like we all know he's good at doing.


just speculation,

could even be genjutsu forced
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Aug 27 2012 07:55pm
Quote (TotallyDelicious @ Aug 27 2012 11:57am)
Nawaki senju = tobi

1. we never saw his body oro wouldn't let us
2. he was not revived by kabuto, kabuto revived a lot of people just for emotional reasons  bringing back the 5ths brother would be a huge trump card
3. he is direct line from the 1st so oro  would of obv wanted to kidnap him for experiments, 

4. he escaped and the madara found him and grew him into tobi,

5. his name comes from his great uncle Tobirama Senju who he respected
6. explains why tobi is fused so well with zetsu dna " who is grown from the 1st dna"


hrm madara cant tell a senju now? he figured out tsunade i believe and he decided to kill her first he hates senju i doubt he would work with one to reach his goals or not

Quote (Juicy_J @ Aug 27 2012 07:05pm)
That's probably what would happen if logic were in place in this story. The Rasengan: an absolutely devastatingly powerful single blow that's been shown to obliterate whatever it hits. Tobi just took one to the face. Is he going to be alive and well next chapter? Yes.


tobis mask took one not his face his super armored mask and he could easily phase out of it he may have used izanagi or izanami already too come on you and this logic thing is retarded they are super human ninjas and run on water with chakra in the real world only God's son did this with his own power :P

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hrm madara cant tell a senju now? he figured out tsunade i believe and he decided to kill her first he hates senju i doubt he would work with one to reach his goals or not



tobis mask took one not his face his super armored mask and he could easily phase out of it he may have used izanagi or izanami already too come on you and this logic thing is retarded they are super human ninjas and run on water with chakra in the real world only God's son did this with his own power :P


I read this, and I dunno. I'm not sure if I'd mind if it went with the story or not.

Naruto 599: Under The Mask

Naruto: GOT YOU, YOU MASKED COWARD!

KABOOM!!

It takes a few moments for the smoke to clear

Naruto: Now you can't hide behind that stupid mask anymore

Tobi is covering his broken mask and face with his hand.

Kakashi and Guy:...

Tobi (thought): Might as well...

Tobi: Naruto, do you think people truly change? Do you think your so called friend Sasuke has changed into the monster of hate he is now...

Naruto: ...

Tobi takes off the mask but the reader doesn't see

Tobi: Or do you think that perhaps your initial impression that Sasuke was ever really your friend or had even the slightest spark of good was just... misled?

Naruto: What does it matter? I'll save Sasuke one way or another.

Tobi: Yes. Just like how I was saved. Isn't that right...Kakashi?

Kakashi: ...I'm sorry...I'm sorry you've turned out this way, Obito.

Tobi: Obito? No. As I told Naruto before...I'm nobody. Obito doesn't exist.
He never has and he never will. There's only no one. I'm nobody.

Kakashi: You loved Rin. But I couldn't protect her. This is for her, right?

Tobi: ...


The scene changes to Madara fighting the Kage.
Madara stops fighting when he sees Sasuke

Madara: Who are you?

Sasuke: ...

In a quick flash Madara is about to attack Sasuke...but stops

Madara: You show not an ounce of fear. Commendable.

Sasuke: I don't need some fossil praising me. I just want answers.

Orochimaru (thought): As arrogant as always

Madara: I've slaughtered children half your age. What makes you think I won't do worse to you?

Sasuke: Simple. Because you can't

Suigetsu (thought): He had to say it.

Madara: Hmph. Fool.

Orochimaru: Run you fools! Before he kills us all!

Orochimaru, Suigetsu, and Jugo run for cover as Madara attacks
Sasuke with all his Sussano.

The dust settles.

Sasuke is unharmed

Madara: How is that even possible?

Sasuke: Answer my questions and maybe I'll tell you.

Madara: ...Very well. What do you want to know?

Orochimaru (thought) I wonder what he wishes to ask Madara Uchiha?

Suigetsu: I just hope he doesn't piss him off again.

Jugo: I think Sasuke will be ok.

Suigetsu: I wasn't exactly worrying about Sasuke.

Sasuke: Did you slaughter the Uchiha Clan?

Madara: Like sheep

Sasuke: ...Then what about the Nine Tails attack on the Leaf?

Madara: I only wish I could take credit for that. That was the work of the masked man. The one you call "Tobi" and was masquerading as myself.

Sasuke: You know who he is. Don't you? Who is he? Who is Tobi?

Madara: He's nobody.

Sasuke: I didn't come here to play word games.

Madara: I never said I was. Let me tell you the story of how I met a young man just a few years younger than yourself. Of how I met...Nobody.

Sasuke: Make it quick.

Madara: I don't know how he found me. But this tattered young man who looked as if he was moments from death itself was standing before me.
Staring right into his darkened eyes I asked him "Why do you keep going?"
Without blinking he replied "Why the hell should I stop?"

Sasuke: That was Tobi, wasn't it? Who is he?

Madara: That was my next question. Yet he didn't know. He didn't know who he was. He didn't know where he was. He didn't know anything
about himself. He didn't even know what he wanted to do. All he knew
was he didn't want to stop. He knew he had to do something.

Sasuke: I thought I said to make it quick.

Madara: Later we found his grave stone. He was a leaf ninja. I asked the young man why there was a grave stone there but yet no body?
It took him a while but then he remembered "We were at war.
They thought I died in enemy land." It made sense but then I asked
"Do you know the war is over? Why haven't they looked for you now?"
He had no answer. Then I asked him "Do you know who I am?" Again
he had no answer. He knew I was Uchiha but that was it. I told him
that I was the great Madara Uchiha. He didn't know who that was.
Then he asked "If you're so great. Then why aren't you talked about?"
I told him "Because they want to forget me. They want to forget you."
We are Uchiha. But for the Senju all that meant was we were just
another footstool. Once we were great. But now we mattered as
much as a stray dog--no less than that. Even our fellow clan members
betrayed us for the mere hope for peace. We, Uchiha are nobody, Sasuke.

Sasuke: ...


The scene changes back to Tobi talking to Kakashi

Tobi: For Rin?...

Tobi: HAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHA! What!? You think this is some revenge plot for some dumb useless wench!? How incredibly naive of you, Kakashi!

Kakashi: Then why are you doing this, Obito?

Tobi: I told you before. I'm not Obito. I'm nobody! Obito is what everyone called me. But deep down inside they knew who I really was. They knew I was nobody. They knew I was someone who didn't really matter at all.

I didn't matter to my parents. I was nobody but a disappointment to them. I didn't matter to the clan. I was nobody but a talentless Uchiha I didn't matter to Konoha. I was nobody but another one of their pawns. I didn't matter to Rin. I was nobody worth loving. I didn't matter to Sensei. I was nobody but a hassle. I didn't matter to you. I was nobody but a spare sharingan for you to take. I didn't matter to anyone. Like I said I'm nobody!

And because I'm nobody...I don't need anybody else!!

TRUE KAMUI!!

The End of 599
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