the grammar you used did indeed imply you were calling luffy a logia user.

No i was trying to keep myself from going into details as when I do I usually get too detailed and ramble. I was talking to someone who hasn't reached that far in the manga. And it is obvious that if haki can hurt Luffy w/ just a punch or a flick then it would hurt Logias as well. as hurting luffy would be taking away the natural resistance of rubber. And don't state things such as I indeed imply that and state it as a fact. that is completely your opinion. If you said the same thing I did, I would understand it as I'm basing it on the fact that you actually read the manga and wouldn't say something so stupid as Luffy is a Logia.

This post was edited by kasey21 on Oct 12 2010 04:12pm

i dont feel like going back and searching.

you can go google it.

or wiki op

Logia's do not activate their devil fruit, they turn into whatever element when getting hit even from surprise attacks.

Note when kizaru got shot in the head and he didn't even notice.

Stop spreading this bullshit

iso proof? i'm pretty sure he noticed them. It was kind of obvious. It is just his personality to not do anything yet. all vice-admirals have haki. I'm pretty sure it is the same for admirals.. also how do you explain Luffy running into ace and smoker.

i think thats more of a writing flaw than an actual concept put into the manga

LOL.. i'm talking about proof from the manga. not peoples opinions


e/ only Lucci has mentioned that it is shortening his life-span..He isn't a doctor nor does he know Luffy's body well

This post was edited by kasey21 on Oct 12 2010 05:16pm

like i said, its inconsistent, otherwise there wouldn't be logia users that get hit from behind w/ a sneak attack and not take damage due to being the element nn to rage on people, discussion threads are about opinions as well

that was talking about gear 2 lowering the life span
and if anyone was raging it was him (Simon) =P



Even if that is the case. there is not much details on logia for someone to say something so confidently and even say "stop spreading your bs" ... that just makes them look dumb... Especially when their proof is based on an opinion.

i slightly agree but you have to admit the inconsistencies of all the small things can make people think otherwise

i believe lucci explained that luffy's lifespan DIDNT lower because his cells and organs were rubber and could adjust but i could be wrong