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Oct 11 2010 09:15pm
Quote (TR0LL @ Oct 11 2010 06:36am)
he pumped the blood faster through his veins, he was only tolerant of it because his organs were rubber

it just made him faster stronger etc


doesnt it shorten his life too?

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Oct 11 2010 09:32pm
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doesnt it shorten his life too?


no that was Lucci's guess on that his body didn't have enough stamina to keep up with the technique. However this was just him underestimating Luffy. It does however put a lot of stress on his body and wares him out fast but doesn't shorten his life
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Oct 11 2010 10:16pm
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haki has always been hinted to be able to hit logias as Luffy was harmed by haki even though he is rubber on many occasions such as on SA and AL. After the war w/ Whitebeard there is a 2 year time-skip where Luffy starts training w/ Rayleigh to learn haki. In chapter 597 the training begins and Rayleigh explains haki. 598 2 years have gone by and Luffy learned the basics of haki in a year so there is no telling what is current level is when it comes to haki mastery. However in 599 we see him using it very well against the Fake Luffy


i c so u guys r only jst learning bout it urselfs gues i best get bak 2 my reading and get up 2 chapter 599 thn
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Oct 11 2010 10:31pm
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i c so u guys r only jst learning bout it urselfs gues i best get bak 2 my reading and get up 2 chapter 599 thn


Well it may just seem just learning it but chapter 597 was a month and a half ago.. lol.. there was a 4 week break after 597 which is when Rayleigh explains all the uses of haki =P
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Oct 12 2010 09:42am
Quote (PiPLuP @ Oct 11 2010 11:15pm)
doesnt it shorten his life too?


yes


The first of these is Gear Second. He uses his legs as a pump to increase his blood vessels, causing it to increase his attack power and overall speed instantly. However, the technique drains his stamina and if overused makes him temporarily unable to move afterward, as well as shortening his life span. The second is Gear Third, which is activated by biting a hole into his thumb and blowing air into his bones.[1] He is then able to move the air around his bone structure and strike with limbs comparable in size to those of giants. The side effect to using Gear Third is that Luffy temporarily shrinks to a fraction of his normal size after releasing the air for a length that corresponds to the amount of time he was using Gear Third. He is capable of using both techniques simultaneously.
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Oct 12 2010 02:13pm
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The first of these is Gear Second. He uses his legs as a pump to increase his blood vessels, causing it to increase his attack power and overall speed instantly. However, the technique drains his stamina and if overused makes him temporarily unable to move afterward, as well as shortening his life span. The second is Gear Third, which is activated by biting a hole into his thumb and blowing air into his bones.[1]  He is then able to move the air around his bone structure and strike with limbs comparable in size to those of giants. The side effect to using Gear Third is that Luffy temporarily shrinks to a fraction of his normal size after releasing the air for a length that corresponds to the amount of time he was using Gear Third. He is capable of using both techniques simultaneously.


iso proof? besides Lucci's groundless statement. There are no long-term side effects from using his gears
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Oct 12 2010 03:30pm
@kasey21 I would like to point out that Luffy is not a Logia devil fruit user. Other than that what you said was correct. Haki doesn't just give the power to bypass Logia users, it gives the ability to bypass all devil fruit users. Luffy is a paramecia type.
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Oct 12 2010 03:44pm
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@kasey21 I would like to point out that Luffy is not a Logia devil fruit user. Other than that what you said was correct. Haki doesn't just give the power to bypass Logia users, it gives the ability to bypass all devil fruit users. Luffy is a paramecia type.


I said it was hinted as Luffy was able to get hurt like he wasn't rubber anymore. And although Luffy may be a Paramecia he is actually probably the most rare paramecia there is. He has been the only Paramecia that can not activate/deactivate. He is just always rubber. this is even out does Logias as they have to activate/deactivate as well which is shown when Luffy runs into ace and smoker in Arabasta. If they were always fire and smoke luffy would have just passed through them but since they didn't see anything coming and were off guard they were able to be hit.
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Oct 12 2010 03:53pm
Quote (kasey21 @ Oct 12 2010 04:44pm)
I said it was hinted as Luffy was able to get hurt like he wasn't rubber anymore. And although Luffy may be a Paramecia he is actually probably the most rare paramecia there is. He has been the only Paramecia that can not activate/deactivate. He is just always rubber. this is even out does Logias as they have to activate/deactivate as well which is shown when Luffy runs into ace and smoker in Arabasta. If they were always fire and smoke luffy would have just passed through them but since they didn't see anything coming and were off guard they were able to be hit.


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haki has always been hinted to be able to hit logias as Luffy was harmed by haki even though he is rubber


You are calling Luffy a Logia user.
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When you say:



You are calling Luffy a Logia user.


No I am saying people were theorizing that since Luffy was able to get hurt by a punch imbued with haki then haki could be able to hurt logias. As it was a theory on OMF that haki was what Luffy will end up using to battle Logias. this was confirmed during the war when Boa hits Smoker. I wasn't calling Luffy a Logia. Besides who are you to tell me what i was thinking? If i say i wasn't then i obviously wasn't.. LOL..
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