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Aug 15 2012 02:10pm
Quote (iCK @ Aug 15 2012 02:03pm)
tobi has 2 sharingans


Wrong


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Aug 15 2012 02:21pm
Quote (iCK @ Aug 15 2012 01:03pm)
tobi has 2 sharingans


he also has a collection of them in his dimension
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Aug 15 2012 02:31pm
Quote (AWHavoc @ Aug 15 2012 03:10pm)
Wrong

http://i50.tinypic.com/9irati.png


he had 2 sharingans



This post was edited by iCK on Aug 15 2012 02:32pm
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Aug 15 2012 02:34pm
SOMEONE ELSE'S TOBI = KAGAMI THEORY

"What if... Kagami Uchiha was Tobi!!
I'm starting to wonder if the fellow pupil of Hiruzen Sarutobi and Danzo Shimura, Kagami Uchiha (seen in the last thoughts of Danzo, after his battle with Sasuke) could be Tobi (Madara Uchiha)? Since i doubt very strongly that Tobi is actually Madara! I have found a couple of pages from the manga which support my theory:

In the following page, the Tsuchikage makes reference to Madara's ''Mooneye Operation'' to be alot like what Danzo's idea of the Shinobi World is... i believe that Madara and Danzo think alike for their respective plans because they were fellow pupils, and Kagami seemed to be in Danzo's three-man cell rather than Sarutobi's... which explains why they think alike!
http://www.mangafox.com/manga/naruto/v50/c467/17.html

Here, we see the three-man cells of both Sarutobi and Danzo. As I said up above, i believe Kagami Uchiha and Akimichi Torifu were in Danzo's squad, under the 2nd Hokage, like Sarutobi's squad.
http://www.mangafox.com/manga/naruto/v51/c481/

I found this other page while re-reading the fight between Madara and Minato during Naruto's birth and the Kyubi attack of 16 years ago. After their ''Battle of Speed'', Minato describes Madara's space-time ninjutsu to be better than his own space-time ninjutsu and even the 2nd Hokage's, Nidaime Hokage. And it might just be me forgeting stuff, but wasn't that the first and only time someone spoke of the Nidaime Hokage to have had space-time ninjutsu?? And if he did, then it explains that he could have tought one of his students the space-time ninjutsu techniques! Furthermore, Masashi Kishimoto seems to like making the students become stronger than their master in this series (Orochimaru and Sarutobi, Sasuke and Kakashi, Naruto and Jiraiya, Shikamaru and Asuma...) so it makes sense that the student of the 2nd Hokage could have developped space-time ninjutsus even better than his master.
http://www.mangafox.com/manga/naruto/v53/c502/11.html

I have no page to support my following argument, but it makes sense anwyays, you'll see!
Kishimoto told on many sites that the name of the 2nd Hokage (Nidaime) was Tobirama Senju... and alot of people, including me, think that the name Madara Uchiha used, ''Tobi'', could have been in reference to Tobirama Senju, the 2nd Hokage. Now, I think this is very probable because if Kagami Uchiha studied under him, than it is indeed a strong possibility that he would've taken a nickname from his old master. Tobi from Tobirama.

To add to my theory about Tobi / Kagami Uchiha, would'nt it be great if the reason why Tobi seemed so surprise to see Kabuto's last Edo Tensei coffin was because it's Madara Uchiha?! And that Kagami Uchiha could be Izuna Uchiha's (Madara's little brother) son!? Maybe he was Madara's nephew and after his father's death he was raised under Madara's ideologies? This makes sense since Madara and Izuna are the same age as Hashirama and Tobirama, so Kagami could have easily been the child of either of those Uchiha brothers! And it could make for a very interesting plot twist in the Naruto series!

Anyways, i hope you guys like my theory and tell me what you think about it i'd like to know good and bad opinions concerning it! Thanks in advance!"
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Aug 15 2012 02:52pm
Quote (iCK @ Aug 15 2012 01:31pm)
he had 2 sharingans

http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120308124325/naruto/images/thumb/1/19/Tobi%27s_left_Sharingan.png/1000px-Tobi%27s_left_Sharingan.png


he's been shown to replace his eyes at will, the second sharingan means nothing
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Aug 15 2012 04:29pm
Quote (AWHavoc @ Aug 15 2012 11:02am)
Would be the worst possible story telling ever...
Even worse than Tobi being Obito+Alternate Dimension+Sasuke+Naruto all at the same time...


Why is that? The world works like this. There will always be somebody in history that has never been heard of at all. That somebody did not make an impact in the past so why not do that in the present? So elaborate why it would be the "worst possible story telling ever" like you said?
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Aug 16 2012 02:30am
Quote (Mokuba @ Aug 15 2012 10:29pm)
Why is that? The world works like this. There will always be somebody in history that has never been heard of at all. That somebody did not make an impact in the past so why not do that in the present? So elaborate why it would be the "worst possible story telling ever" like you said?


I would be so surprised if it was just some random character that was never seen or heard of before. :P
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Aug 16 2012 08:35am
Quote (Mokuba @ 15 Aug 2012 17:29)
Why is that? The world works like this. There will always be somebody in history that has never been heard of at all. That somebody did not make an impact in the past so why not do that in the present? So elaborate why it would be the "worst possible story telling ever" like you said?


It would be bad story telling because if he gives us a character with little to no prior indication to the plot, the impact of Tobi's identity would be basically nonexistent. He's been keeping his identity from us for this long so it would be dumb to just say "oh, Tobi is just this random Uchiha with no prior impact on the story or relevance to the main characters. There he is. Your main villain." If Tobi's identity isn't meaningful, then keeping it a secret for this long was absolutely 100% pointless.
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Aug 16 2012 09:12am
Nawaki Senju = Tobi
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Aug 16 2012 12:35pm
I'm starting to think it's Naruto's Shadow Clone that he secretly set free in the past.

At the end he will be like "See, war is bad, stop fighting each other, excuse me while I revive everyone I killed with the Rinnegan and go die now."
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