Agreed and thats something I have thought about a lot too.. When they were to power up to before super sayian, they were shaking the planet with their pure power.. afterwords its like.. super sayain.. he just gets buff. SS2.. buff, planet starts minorly cracking, SS3, whole earth starts shaking again.. why did it take til ss3 to have that kind of power again?
Also!!!!
The whole namek stuff didn't make sense.. so heres my thoughts on it.
When they came, krillin told guru that piccolo had been killed by a sayain, and that is why they needed to make the wish (to bring him and the others back to life)
Guru said that the sayains only killed him because he and kami seperated, without that.. piccolo would of never been defeated by a normal sayain, only a super sayain could take him on.
Piccolo fuses with nail and starts tearing freiza's shit open in form 2... now heres what I don't get.
goku's power level vs ginyu is 160,000... frieza says he last clocked his form 2 at one million (might of been 2 million even.. I don't remember.. but I know it was at least a million)
I understand being near death helps a sayain become stronger.. but come on... going from 160k to probably over 3 - 4 million (considering he was Final Form at like.. 5% of his max power at that point.. he didn't go 50% until goku went kiaoken and he went fullpower after he threw the planet destroying energy blast).. Why was goku able to take final form frieza at ALL before he went super sayian? Power levels must be bullshit

This post was edited by ZipperInYourMouth on Jul 29 2012 07:18am

practice makes perfect(for the power ups)

as you said saiyans get stronger some more so than others etc etc so without the author giving us some sort of measuring tip we dunno if that was normal or not either way it was explained

piccolo with nail was also weaker than frieza second form in terms of power level but due to the experience nail had with normal frieza they explained it was enough to hold him down

for the goku vs frieza i dont remember this that well but from what you've said frieza was never full power until goku went super saiyan so it seems it was frieza's fault for underestimating the monkeys he used as toys so yeah sounds like he was defeated by his own ego

either way its a manga stop with logic otherwise jerry the mouse better get squashed by that anvil he's holding

Yeah I'm totally fine staying on topic sorry for getting off topic with the others.

I thought I was alone in the "Enjoy anime, but have never seen DBZ" category...

This whole ninja war going on doesn't reallllllllly feel like a war to me...

Need more significant character deaths imo, like half of Naruto's class should be taken out...

True I feel things are getting weird. I mean why can't new characters debut? Naruto is wearing out of uniqueness now since Kabuto resurrected random villains.

I agree with this. We're nearing the end of the relevant part of the series and no one important has been taken out. We came close with Tsunade, but she miraculously survived. Seriously, what's wrong with taking out say...Kiba? Maybe Ten-ten? Shino? They've made it clear that in part 2 the rookie 9 are much less significant characters because they haven't developed them like...at all. What's the harm in killing some of them off? The fact that there has been a huge "war" and none of the developed characters have died is rather far-fetched and unbelievable. Seriously.

This is what I hope happens; Sasuke gets to the battle field and, as implied by the issue where he woke up and saw Itachi, brings carnage to the battlefield and takes out a few of the supporting characters. Is it so unreasonable to believe that he's going to run into the likes of maybe Ino, Choji, and Shikamaru or something before he gets to Naruto? I'd like to see Sasuke kill just about anyone besides Kakashi.

You are right, I forgot it was nail's experience that helped so much..
But heres my issue.. Form 1 freiza was too much for vegeta..
how could goku touch final form frieza.... Check this out.
Goku and vegeta vs eachother on earth.
Goku wins only because of his friends but w/e.. lets say they are equal power wise (really they aren't.. goku is nothing until he kao's but w/e..)
Goku and vegeta almost dead.... they get a power boost.
while goku trains in 100x gravity, vegeta almost died vs zarbon (power boost) almost dies vs reccoom (power boost) almost dies vs getting shot in the fucking chest by krillin (power boost)
Goku arrives on namek, almost dies from ginyu body swap scene, (power boost) and then rapes frieza.. the fuck kinda logic is that.

It's not meant to be logical. Goku is the main protagonist of the series (alongside Gohan) so he's expected to became insanely strong, more so than Vegeta. Once Goku met King Kai that basically opened the flood gates for his potential and then he purposely increased dramatically throughout the rest of the series.

but it doesn't make sense that his powerlevel went from 13k (23k in kaiokenx2) to 160k from training at from 20x to 100x gravity for a week, then went from 160k to over 1 million from a near death experience HE DIDN'T EVEN EXPERIENCE, IT WAS SOMEONE ELSE IN HIS BODY!