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Jul 18 2012 02:21pm
Quote (napsterz0r @ Jul 18 2012 03:14pm)
unfortunaly... this confirms it like 80% that its obito... ( btw the brother of that girl who died was showed in naruto , after the 4th dead....when kakashi went to a grave... who was her brother?, its obv someone from kakashi past )


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Jul 18 2012 02:51pm
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Jul 18 2012 03:05pm
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I havnt read the chapter yet but seeing these 3 comments I have a lot to say.
I said it might be tobi long ago due to certain things, everyone laughed it off but I guess I will restate them.
A:
Obito was crushed : Tobi was constantly slothing off damaged parts in battle. He stated at the kage summit that he is too weak due to damage he sustained in previous battles (he said with the 1st, but he is not madara so I assumed being crushed by the cave.
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Obito was a kid / he wasn't evil when he was truely obito: Whos to say, since Zetsu is "one with the earth", that he is not of senju dna? And he needed Obito's Uchiha to become the sage of the 6 paths. Maybe tobi is just the innocent Obito, but Zetsu took over his body / brainwashed him into a type of "The leaf got you killed, let me fuse with your body and heal you and you can take revenge on them" Type of deal
As for him being a kid, He could be in a situation like Jugo where he was once a kid, but when zetsu fused with him, he became an adult looking form (Like when jugo was a kid, but killed / absorbed the soilder he killed and became an adult again.
Afk reading chapter


zetsu was created by madara/ tobi via the tree that is a living plant clone of the 1st,

Kakashi was shown in the arc that tobi attacked the leave and kakashi was still a tiny kid, zzz so was gai

i also would think minato as skilled as he is noticed if he was fighting his former student
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Jul 18 2012 03:19pm
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zetsu was created by madara/ tobi via the  tree that is a living plant clone of the 1st,

Kakashi was shown in the arc that tobi attacked the leave and kakashi was still a tiny kid, zzz so was gai 

i also would think minato as skilled as he is noticed if he was fighting his former student


Did not read what I wrote apparently..
Similar to Jugo, Zetsu may of offered Obito further life other than just dying under a rock by fusing his white self with obito.
I am assuming Zetsu is senju and wanted an uchiha mixed into him.
Similar to when jugo absorbed a guard and went from small to big again, that is what could of happened with Obito... along with White Zetsu's evil intentions taking over Obito's psyche.
Along with that, until Tobi fought Konan, he only showed one sharingan.. When he fought her, he had 2, which could be attributed to him killing the clan and having 50+ sharingan on-hand
Not to mention if Madara really created origional zetsu (which I believe is completely incorrect information, I am talking about the origional Zetsu not more clone white zetsues) That would attribute why Tobi was so angry when he learned nagato brought the Hidden leaf back to life instead of madara, because he wanted to bring his creator back to the living world.
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Jul 18 2012 05:24pm
Either Tobi is Obito, or Kishi saw all of those theories and decided to troll them, because it would be stupid for Tobi to be Obito. I'd be pissed off. Not sure which it is yet, I think we'll find out in the double chapter.

I think Orochimaru created Zetsu, now that we know him or his research is connected to everything (he wouldn't be alive and walking IMO it wasn't).

I think we can all agree that Kakashi knew whoever is behind the mask.
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Jul 18 2012 05:28pm
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Either Tobi is Obito, or Kishi saw all of those theories and decided to troll them, because it would be stupid for Tobi to be Obito. I'd be pissed off. Not sure which it is yet, I think we'll find out in the double chapter.

I think Orochimaru created Zetsu, now that we know him or his research is connected to everything (he wouldn't be alive and walking IMO it wasn't).

I think we can all agree that Kakashi knew whoever is behind the mask.


yeah im pretty sure he had a good hunch the way his facial expression was
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Jul 18 2012 05:30pm
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yeah im pretty sure he had a good hunch the way his facial expression was


Well I meant whoever it is used to be a friend of Kakashi's, but I reread the chapter and you're right. I think Kakashi has an idea as to his identity now.
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Jul 18 2012 05:38pm
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Jul 18 2012 05:41pm
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Either Tobi is Obito, or Kishi saw all of those theories and decided to troll them, because it would be stupid for Tobi to be Obito. I'd be pissed off. Not sure which it is yet, I think we'll find out in the double chapter.

I think Orochimaru created Zetsu, now that we know him or his research is connected to everything (he wouldn't be alive and walking IMO it wasn't).

I think we can all agree that Kakashi knew whoever is behind the mask.


this.
even if your theory is right out of all the shitty characters out there, you think Zetsu picked this kid?
so what if it is Obito, only Kakashi will make such a reaction like "omfgz you're still alive?!?!?... thanks for giving me dat eye btw helped me lots"
what is gai going to do? get stronger when he knows who his enemy?
i'd rather have a character that all the characters in the ninja world would recognize and react to with a surprise.
not some nobody that would just be introduced when the mask is taken off, that would kinda of kill the whole "i'm this badass behind this mask... and no one will find out.. NEVER!"
and change it to a "even if they do take off my mask, they won't know who i am cause i only kakashi knows me and he's obviously the protagonist of the whole anime.. so all i have done is to trick and fuck with that one person... Kakashi, that white haired asshole"

not only do you have to look at the hints that the author gives you which everybody has been doing very well obviously, but you gotta of look at how the story is told and how it will make an anime "better"
and by this, kishi put a fucking mask on some dude that knows how to destroy the world.

This post was edited by lyzerggg on Jul 18 2012 05:45pm
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Jul 18 2012 06:08pm
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this.
even if your theory is right out of all the shitty characters out there, you think Zetsu picked this kid?
so what if it is Obito, only Kakashi will make such a reaction like "omfgz you're still alive?!?!?... thanks for giving me dat eye btw helped me lots"
what is gai going to do? get stronger when he knows who his enemy?
i'd rather have a character that all the characters in the ninja world would recognize and react to with a surprise.
not some nobody that would just be introduced when the mask is taken off, that would kinda of kill the whole "i'm this badass behind this mask... and no one will find out.. NEVER!"
and change it to a "even if they do take off my mask, they won't know who i am cause i only kakashi knows me and he's obviously the protagonist of the whole anime.. so all i have done is to trick and fuck with that one person... Kakashi, that white haired asshole"

not only do you have to look at the hints that the author gives you which everybody has been doing very well obviously, but you gotta of look at how the story is told and how it will make an anime "better"
and by this, kishi put a fucking mask on some dude that knows how to destroy the world.


He would need to pick an uchiha that was weak enough to fully control. We see that uchiha who are strong, such as Sasuke, are not as easy to control (even though he was sick, using orochimaru's little body xfer shit as an example), whereas Zetsu could of had the better idea and take control of him while he is weak.. And as for the bolded part of your statement, he sounds like he is mimicing Kisame when he fought Gai the (2nd?) (when he was a dead body or w/e just remotely controlled by itachi and kisame) and kisame said "you dont remember me".. apparently gai is known for forgetting his formidable enemies?
Anyways its a discussion.. no reason to flame
I actually put some work into my theory, I think it makes plenty of sense, but if I am wrong oh well.. not going to be the end of the world for me..
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