o, you mean like renji and ikkaku?

lol? qufang never was a vasto lorde... he looks just like his adjuchas self:



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you can tell he's a vasto lorde. his adjuchas vs resurrected form look nothing alike.

This post was edited by Cyba on Nov 28 2008 07:02am

anyone know why ulquoirra's hole was in his neck when he first invaded ichigo's town, but now it's in his cheat?

Nope, no one knows, and ikkaku's captain level if he actually stops being stupid and pulls out his bankai

i know, i was being sarcastic when he said fraccions are vice captain level showing exceptions

plus in episode 122 it even said shawlong and the other 4 were gillians

and aizen said in episode 122 during his talk with gin that

"no one shall stand in our way once we have gathered the vasto lorde together and have completed the espada."

so yea, not all the espadas are vasto lordes but there are a couple (1-6)

This post was edited by Cyba on Nov 28 2008 02:50pm

I never said qufang was a vast lord. I said that it was impossible for him to become a vast lord

Currently on crappy internet, unable to youtube or look up manga. I'l post my side saturday night when im back on my semi-fast internets.

When he says "no one shall stand in our way once we have gathered the vasto lorde together and have completed the espada." he is referencing other vast lords that he hasn't gotten control of. There are more vast lords than whats already in the espada.

EDIT: Im pretty sure that every arancar is atleast adjuchas level. If he used houkyku on them while they were gillians, their ressurections would just make them look like a menos. If he used houkyoku on a regular hollow it would make them incredibly weak considering that normal hollows really suck.

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Nov 28 2008 03:07pm

grimmjow's crew allowed him to devour parts of them because they knew they couldn't go any farther and eat least that way they won't regress to the lowest level..... aizen said in episode 122 himself that those 5 arrancars were gillians turned into arrancars

and i forget what we were arguing about but i think it had to do with grimmjow

This post was edited by Cyba on Nov 28 2008 03:25pm

what 5? Grimmjow's fraccion was all adjuchas.

Im certain that 1-6 are vast lords. Maybe 7 to but im not sure. I was agreeing that grimmjow was a vast lord.

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Nov 28 2008 03:27pm

Shawlong Qufang , Edorad Leones , Ilforte Granz , D-Roy , and Nakim .

when your computer internet is back to normal. watch episode 122 again. right after tousen cuts off grimmjow's arm and aizen walks outside he talks to gin and that's where he tells a lot of good info