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Jun 27 2012 07:21pm
Quote (Charity @ Jun 27 2012 09:18pm)
hrm the second aka the creator why didnt he immediately do this when orochimaru summoned him are you saying madara is the only one who knew this flaw in the technique?

hopefully next week will explain this but it was pretty neat how he got out of it



madara is probably stronger than the 2nd and was given more free will than the 2nd when resurrected.

that is still a huge plot hole but im sure there are some bs reasons as to why its happening like this
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Jun 27 2012 07:37pm
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madara is probably stronger than the 2nd and was given more free will than the 2nd when resurrected.

that is still a huge plot hole but im sure there are some bs reasons as to why its happening like this


hrm dunno what stronger has to do with anything but even still i said immediately unless you only break free of disappearing and not the persons control therefore the only time to use this technique would be when a third party stops the caster aka madara's situation

either way i dont believe the second to be that far behind either the first or madara
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Jun 27 2012 07:40pm
Ino, Shikamaru, and Choji teamed up again. It was really great. I believed they faced Iruka and he was resurrected by Kabuto. It was exciting to see. Choji can even transform into that butterfly without side effects from the red gumball.
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Jun 27 2012 08:36pm
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hrm the second aka the creator why didnt he immediately do this when orochimaru summoned him are you saying madara is the only one who knew this flaw in the technique?

hopefully next week will explain this but it was pretty neat how he got out of it


kabutos control of the edo was completely different from ochi , ochi controlled the 1st and 2nd like puppets , not to mention ochi never once canceled the edo they were sealed via death god so if they 2nd had more freedom he wouldn't of been able to cancel or rewrite the seal or what ever
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Jun 27 2012 09:07pm
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kabutos  control of the edo was completely different from  ochi , ochi controlled the 1st and 2nd like puppets ,  not to mention ochi never once canceled the edo  they were sealed  via death god  so if they 2nd had more freedom he wouldn't of been able to  cancel or rewrite the seal or what ever


firstly you should read both post i made before yours on this subject anywho: nah pretty sure kabutos control was greater he didnt require the kunai with seals to overwrite their own consciousness

but even without that being the case i said immediately he had time to say hi saru and that this kid used edo tensei etc etc he could have released himself

madara clearly states that you are released from the contract so why did he wait so late to do it i guess he was playing along either way the second definitely should have had knowledge of how to escape being the creator since his mind was left intact for enough time(madara was being cancelled and he called himself back so its a matter of seconds)



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Jun 27 2012 09:31pm
Quote (Charity @ Jun 27 2012 10:07pm)
firstly you should read both post i made before yours on this subject anywho: nah pretty sure kabutos control was greater he didnt require the kunai with seals to overwrite their own consciousness

but even without that being the case i said immediately he had time to say hi saru and that this kid used edo tensei etc etc he could have released himself

madara clearly states that you are released from the contract so why did he wait so late to do it i guess he was playing along either way the second definitely should have had knowledge of how to escape being the creator since his mind was left intact for enough time(madara was being cancelled and he called himself back so its a matter of seconds)


u can only escape once the caster cancels the summon in that time frame how u not understand?
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Jun 27 2012 10:26pm
what about Dan doing the spirit thing that wasnt cool?
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Jun 27 2012 11:21pm
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what about Dan doing the spirit thing that wasnt cool?


was predictable..every random has some random shit that was invented for some randomshit but isnt used for that randomshit anymore so random and predictable
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Jun 27 2012 11:25pm
Quote (MutatedBeaveR @ Jun 27 2012 10:21pm)
was predictable..every random has some random shit that was invented for some randomshit but isnt used for that randomshit anymore so random and predictable


he was just too unknown ``
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Jun 27 2012 11:29pm
Quote (TotallyDelicious @ Jun 27 2012 11:31pm)
u can only escape once the caster cancels the summon  in that time frame  how u not understand?


what? that is speculation just read 3 different translations and in none does madara state the risk is when the caster releases those who knows the seal can break the contract at that point

it simply states the risk is if someone knows the edo seal they can remove the summon contract itself (synopsis)
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