Shawlong Qufang... he doesn't relaly look that much human like imo, but when they talked about grimmjaw's past, they were talking about going up in the ranks together because they don't wanna stay at adjuchas level.

the only reason hitsugaya won was because after they removed the limit on their reiatsu from soul society, hitsugaya scared Shawlong Qufang and caught him off guard. imo he's prolly privaron espada level or something.

This post was edited by Cyba on Nov 26 2008 05:46pm

His fraccion said they couldn't go any higher than what they already were, which is why they let grimmjow be their leader. He made some comment about their power stopped growing around meal 1000, but he was still getting stronger and could probably become a vast lord. They didn't see any point in staying hte same strength for eternity, so they were helping grimmjow get stronger.

Your thinking of Renji. After the fight he said that he probably couldn't win if he hadn't caught the guy off guard. Hitsugaya pwned shawlong after the limit got removed.

dunno what you talking about.. but wtf... if 1-10 Are espadas and 10++ are (dunno the name...) why whould Espadas have a second name Vasto Lords?Its was suposed that Vasto lords being the most Powerfull from espadas sides.. not fraction or other group...so its kinda obv. they cant be all of them Vasto Lords..


10+ arancans < espadas < vasta lords

Vast Lord is just the third form of espada. Soul Society gave them that name before they even had any knowledge of espada.

Any hollow can be a vast lord as long as they are in human form, they don't have to be in the espada to be considered vast lords. Lemme look for the page in the manga, il pm u rest of infos to avoid spoilerz.

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Nov 26 2008 05:56pm

well initially i was thinking of renji, but then i remembered seeing hitsugaya surprising Shawlong at the end and then finished him off.

they were saying they didn't think they could go any higher at this rate, so they decided to help grimmjaw by letting him eat parts of them and serving under him.... but after he became a vasto lorde, i would expect him to help them too...

The vaste lords turned into the espada, and only 1-8 are most likely vaste lords

why would aizen waste time turning only adjuchas into arrancars.

They said it was impossible for them to get stronger. They said something along the lines of "it was determined when we were hollows, or even before then, that we could only get to this level"

He probably would have helped them get stronger if he could have, but the only way they could improve would be to get made into arancars, and even then thats probably the limit for them.



top 10 arancar = espada

Thats the only requirement for espada, that you are among the top 10 strongest in aizen's army. Doesn't matter if you are gillian, adjuchas, or vast lord. As long as you are in the top 10 then your gonna be made an espada. I doubt he does substitutions every time a stronger arancar is born, otherwise 7-10 would be switched out regularly.

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Nov 26 2008 06:03pm

He's saying that number 11-like w/e the number is, arrancar then espada

oh, i understand now.

Every hollow in aizen's army that has a number is an arancar. 1-103 and beyond are all arancar.

1-10 are special ones called espada. Top 10 arancar, 1 being strongest, 10 being weakest. Those are the only ones where the number judges strength.

Vast Lords are just uber strong arancar that take human shape and are incredibly strong. Examples are 1-7

Soul society gave the name vast lord to captain level arancar that take human shape. They gave them this name before they even knew the espada existed, so it's impossible for vast lord to be strongest espada.

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Nov 26 2008 06:07pm