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Nov 15 2008 09:44pm
Quote (Onceamule @ Sun, Nov 16 2008, 11:36am)
Doesn't mean there in a generation, shikamaru and neji are geniuses so they skipped ahead, that's like saying a genius who's 10 who graduated college already is in a different generation tutoring another 10 year old.


Actually im not saying anything of the sort.
A generation refers to a contemporaneous group of individuals shaped by similar characteristics and attitudes.
They generally develop these through shared and common cultural (Edit: and/or social) experiences.

Konohamaru and his friends know nothing of the trials and tribulations Naruto and his friends have gone through in regards to Sauske and Akatsuki.
They don't have the same shared experiences and their attitude is likely to differ.
I would argue they belong to different generations.

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Quote (FeelGoodInc @ Sat, Nov 15 2008, 09:44pm)
Actually im not saying anything of the sort.
A generation refers to a contemporaneous group of individuals shaped by similar characteristics and attitudes.
They generally develop these through shared and common cultural experiences.

Konohamaru and his friends know nothing of the trials and tribulations Naruto and his friends have gone through in regards to Sauske and Akatsuki.
They don't have the same shared experiences and their attitude is likely to differ.
I would argue they belong to different generations.


yeah, but I still say that jiraiya was refering to naruto's generation smile.gif

Tsunade was a drunk gambler before becoming hokage

AND THAT KAKASHI IS DEAD.

ty for defining generation happy.gif my bet is that cyba looked it up and realized he didn't kno wtf he was talking about so he couldn't swallow his pride and post it. smile.gif

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Nov 15 2008 09:48pm
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Nov 15 2008 09:51pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Sat, Nov 15 2008, 11:43pm)
dude, u r seriously stupid if you think that you have been "cornering me"

please show where you cornered me, because i cant find any.

you claim I don't know what generation is when you cannot define it yourself.  hyppocrite -.-


post 1501 - you tried to change the subject even after we weren't discussing about kakashi no more because you know you've been verbal'ed .. nice attempt though

post 1502 - i gave you 6 bullets for you to address, you only recoiled with 3? in post 1505

1507 - i gave you more than 5 points to highlight, yet you could only attempt to argue back against 1-2 of those points

post 1509 - you attempt to change the subject again and don't even try to argue about my post responding to your question.
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Nov 15 2008 09:53pm
Quote (Cyba @ Sat, Nov 15 2008, 09:51pm)
post 1501 - you tried to change the subject even after we weren't discussing about kakashi no more because you know you've been verbal'ed .. nice attempt though

post 1502 - i gave you 6 bullets for you to address, you only recoiled with 3? in post 1505

1507 - i gave you more than 5 points to highlight, yet you could only attempt to argue back against 1-2 of those points

post 1509 - you attempt to change the subject again and don't even try to argue about my post responding to your question.


yawn. gimme a minute. shitty internet makes it hard to respond to alot of poitns when it takes around 40 seconds to load each page every time i hit the "edit" button.
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Quote (Thor123422 @ Sat, Nov 15 2008, 11:53pm)
yawn.  gimme a minute.  shitty internet makes it hard to respond to alot of poitns when it takes around 40 seconds to load each page every time i hit the "edit" button.


now you're only going to attempt to answer my questions because you didn't think i would notice before, after i called you out you find you have to do it.....you're so easy to figure out rofl... learn to grow a complex.
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Nov 15 2008 10:03pm
Quote (Cyba @ Sat, Nov 15 2008, 09:57pm)
now you're only going to attempt to answer my questions because you didn't think i would notice before, after i called you out you find you have to do it.....you're so easy to figure out rofl... learn to grow a complex.


dude, U TRY TO DO THIS ON MY INTERNET CONNECTION. COME TO MY HOUSE AND HAVE AN INTERNET CONNECTION OF 26KB/S

give me some fucking time dude -.- I couldn't answer ur points beofre because i didn't have time to keep hitting the edit button and bring each new quote up. Every time i hit the edit button it takes about 40 seconds to load the little box to type in. NO IM NOT EXAGERATING.
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Quote (Thor123422 @ Sun, Nov 16 2008, 12:03am)
dude, U TRY TO DO THIS ON MY INTERNET CONNECTION.  COME TO MY HOUSE AND HAVE AN INTERNET CONNECTION OF 26KB/S

give me some fucking time dude -.-  I couldn't answer ur points beofre because i didn't have time to keep hitting the edit button and bring each new quote up.  Every time i hit the edit button it takes about 40 seconds to load the little box to type in.  NO IM NOT EXAGERATING.


your connection doesn't have to do with anything... you're just trying to make up a random b/s excuse so you can divert the problem... learn to take responsibility and own up to what you did.. you read all my post... once i've posted something you have access to read everything that's in there, and from your quotes of me we all know you see everything i put...... you just chose to address the issues you have an explanation to, the rest you just keep out unconsciously ( or consciously because it wouldn't make a difference) because you don't have an argument for it

u sir, are one of the most pathetic people i've ever met.

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Quote (Cyba @ Sat, Nov 15 2008, 10:06pm)
your connection doesn't have to do with anything... you're just trying to make up a random b/s excuse so you can divert the problem... learn to take responsibility and own up to what you did.. you read all my post... once i've posted something you have access to read everything that's in there, and from your quotes of me we all know you see everything i put...... you just chose to address the issues you have an explanation to, the rest you just keep out unconsciously ( or consciously because it wouldn't make a difference) because you don't have an argument for it

u sir, are one of the most pathetic people i've ever met.


my connection has everything to do with it. If i can't load the page i can't exactly respond to the argument can i?

Im not diverting hte problem, im taking the time to type out the responses. It takes a long time to load pages of manga on this connection so it takes a while to get my response.

What did i not respond to? Give me specifics, il respond to them now.

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Nov 15 2008 10:14pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Sat, Nov 15 2008, 10:09pm)
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Why the hell do you spell the like that.
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Nov 15 2008 10:15pm
Quote (Cyba @ Sat, Nov 15 2008, 08:26pm)
ok, you may see it like that.... but everyone else interprets it as any generation after jiraiya's.... and rofl, kakashi's group is the current generation? i'm sorry to disappoint you but what about konohamaru? is he not a generation? seriously just stop while you're ahead

nice, you know i cornered you so you make up random excuses to defend yourself, end of that argument i guess (me as victor ofc)

tsunade only gambled and drink to ease her pain, and plus everyone drinks sake so why does it matter..... chiyo is too old to drink but what's to say she hasn't in her past? i mean if she lived that long, and the correlation between red wine before bed lessens your chances of heart attacks and increases your life span, chiyo should've had drunk before.

i am greater than you, get over it kid. you disagree with almost all my ideas, yet you don't even have sufficient proof to back up your shitty remarks.... get some concrete details and ethos before stepping to me.


her motivation is irrelevent, the point is that she was drinking and gambling excessively. Drinking kills brain cells and dulls ur senses etc. Chiyo probably didn't have a past like tsunade considering she was still pretty close to per prime while fighting Sasori.

there are seperate generations after jiraiya. Kakashi's group is the current generation. It has been said multiple times in the manga that the future of hte generation has been entrusted to Naruto's generation.

Quote (Cyba @ Sat, Nov 15 2008, 08:46pm)
drinking all the time? you must be confused, just because when she was introduced to the show, she was drinking with jiraiya doesn't mean she drinks all the time... you were being affected by the hindsight bias i presume?

what does konohamaru's airing time have to do with his generation not existing? make your arguments more valid plz

yea, you really need a reality check on what a generation is and stop making up your own terms for generation

plenty of proof? name one.

i see you're changing the subject again, i see you're using repression as your defense mechanism to banish all uncomfortable situations given.

lol, i can't wait till you get smacked in the face when kakashi rises from the grave.


She was drinking all the time. Jiraiya described her lifestyle as going from town to town drinking and skipping out on gambling debts.

I doubt jiraiya was talking about him because he gets virtually no air time. Why would he be talking about a character that has like 2 pages in the whole shippuden series? He was talking about naruto since his generation is the main.

1 piece of proof is that tsunade was spending most of her time drinking and gambling before becoming hokage. Go look around in those chapters and look at her lifestyle as well as those guys in the gambling houses description of her. SOmething along the lines of "the legendary sucker" becuase of her addiction to gambling makes her keep going until shes broke.

I wasn't changing hte subject, i was commenting on the defintion of generation. Is it really that hard for u to talk about 2 things at once?

Kakashi is dead smile.gif Cant wiat for my 50fg since im in debt atm >_<

Quote (Cyba @ Sat, Nov 15 2008, 09:05pm)
i never said anything about tsunade making up her own super secret revival ninjutsu, i was just providing a hypothetical statement to as she COULD have already made one..


saying tsunade COULD have made one is speculation.

Quote (Cyba @ Sat, Nov 15 2008, 09:05pm)
here's my answers to your "proofs"

1. the only time i saw tsunade really drinking was when she was at that bar with jiraiya

2. you're just seeking confirmation bias again... that is not concrete detail/ evidence, just your insinuations ... looks like there's another word you need to learn

3. i don't get how that correlates with naruto and provide evidence to your thesis.

all you rarguments are speculations

kid, you need to learn how to read less passively..


1. Answered above

2. Its common sense

3. Every time i say something that disproves one of your points, you take one of three actions. Ignore it, say its speculation, or say im changing the subject when im commenting on a different one of your points.

post 1509 isn't even one of my posts u retard.

enjoy, it took a while loading and reloading those pages as well as sifting through manga chapters on my connection. But here you go, respones to all ur bullshit.

good night. Im done talking to u since i just disproved all of your points. gnite all, see u in bleach threads maybe smile.gif
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Quote (Cyba @ Sat, Nov 15 2008, 09:57pm)
now you're only going to attempt to answer my questions because you didn't think i would notice before, after i called you out you find you have to do it.....you're so easy to figure out rofl... learn to grow a complex.


Nah, THAT is a perfect example of speculation. At any rate i don't think it matters when i answer u as long as i get it answered smile.gif

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