I haven't watched any videos about any chi or ki or whatever you were talking about. Because that is irrelevant. You are asking me questions which what I have said has not brought up. You must read, through paying attention we understand.

I don't believe in the same exact concept as OP brings up if that is the question. I do believe however that as time goes on, we discover new things. And laws, we believe to strictly make surroundings exist as they do, will be rewritten at some point. As you may have concluded yourself by now, I am not trying to prove you wrong or challenge your knowledge. What I am trying to achieve is that people would keep their mind open. There are things in our universe that are yet to be explained and we will reach some sort of understanding eventually but I don't think mankind have reached the utter knowledge about everything when we don't know exactly what sits underneath us. It is as likely as it is that we are only only evolved living form in universe.

Mind open, time will bring clarity.

Here is the other video.



This guy is one of my idols if you could not tell

with all the stupid bullshit in the world today, this guy gives me hope for the future.

I still don't know if troll or not. I still don't know why you are arguing something when you asked the question. You asked for opinions and you got them and then you argued them.

still dose not explain how humans could fly given whatever gaps we might have in physics.

if you want to learn how humans could really fly watch the video linked above.. if you have time =/

I do not remember when he talks about it so I'm going to rewatch this talk right now before bed

I will definitely watch it later.

We don't know how or even the flaws of laws of physics. If we knew then we wouldn't consider them as laws as they wouldn't stand at any point of time or situation. And I didn't set it as my goal in the first place, to explain how. I am looking to help people open their minds when it comes to a time that changes current knowledge. I don't want anyone to believe aliens from outer space or inside earth, gods, lochness monster or santa claus. I want people to question these things but on other hand being able to understand that there are not only one option but many, maybe endless options. While OP may have little far distant understanding of reality, he is not wrong for having a second thought. Heck, it doesn't even matter if someone is right or wrong. Thinking of such things makes us what we are and we don't know, that way of thinking may lead us to whole new level of knowledge. At least we don't sit in a stone cave thinking that everything is at it should be and declining any progression.

Thank you for the time to have a discussion with me

I do not open my mind to claims without evidence.

and if you have a claim I ask for the evidence just as I did here.

at the end I can still say in confidence humans can not fly, furthermore I can also say humans will never fly with chi or ki or with this energy OP speaks of.

because it dose not exist, and if it did it could be observed and measured by science.

In the end, you are repeating same things over and over again. I haven't stated once that human can fly. You cannot say though human will never fly. If you did then you would be lying. Not because human will fly once but because you would be just stating what you don't know.

It is your freedom to stay close-minded. However, look around yourself and questing popular beliefs and rules. You will be much easier to let go old rules when it appears they don't apply anymore. Speaking of scientists, there are too many to count them up now, that don't believe world is set by current rules. They put their lives in proving it. And world is way beyond understanding what you can see or touch. It is about understanding what remains invisible from us. Universe is mystery and we belong in it - we are mystery of our own. It is likely that we will understand time and space before we understand ourselves, though.

By humans flying, op meant like flying in the sky without any suits or equipment. I'll tell you why humans can't fly without these helps and its simple. Our bodies did not evolve to fly. Our bones aren't hollow like birds, our bodyweight are not light like the birds.

Recall that if we did have some sort "hidden energy" that wouldn't matter. You would need to produce enough energy from your feet to overcome fg and then what? How much energy do you think our fat contains, how obese do you need to be to fly, wouldn't that require more energy to overcome the force of gravity doesnt thayt become an obstacle to this theory? And if we don't use these "realistic" energy and this hidden is a different source, our other field of studies would eliminate that plausibility in seconds

And why would we have hidden energy? Biochemistry is a pretty intensive field and energy has been explained for century's.

Time travel? Maybe
faster than the speed of light? Who knows
flying? Maybe in the distant future with the help of suits or machineto accommodate our body that evolved to be on the ground

why is this thread still open.... why was it posted here in the first place

Ok so first and foremost, why the f*** has this debate become a argument against or for a dualism body/mind. I was pretty motivated to read all the thread until I saw this turn into a dualism of substances debate.

To OP:

All your claims have many premisses on which there already has been a great debate over the course of history.

Can we have metaphysical claims?
Is there only one substance?
Can we pretend to a knowledge of something that would be outside of what we call nature?
Can we do an ontology of science?
What is the social role of science and scientific claims?

You started your thread by asking whether it would be possible for humans to fly or not. At first, I thought that the only way to discuss this was in an evolutionary perspective. Could we, humans, evolved into flying human (or something like this). There could have a been a nice discussion about how an organism evolve, what makes him evolve, how does he evolve, etc. From there, could the human evolve into a flying being and if yes, how could it happen?

But instead, after several posts, you started talking about souls, multiverse, and those metaphysical claims which hold no grounds to what we know about that so called ''reality''.

Theres one thing I would add: People refuting what you are saying are not pretending to know everything. Anyone saying that humans know everything there is to know in a manner such as no more revolutionary discovery in science will be made is plain stupid. This being said, science seems to offer a frame in which we can describe, explain and predict a lot of natural phenomenas. If you want to offer some new frame where humans are divided into a soul and a body, where multiverse are higly anthropomorphic (such as a planet being ruled by apes...), where you can believe what you want the truth to be cause otherwise the world ''sux'', where you can channel some mystic energy into your body, you have to give us a strong reason. Some people will jump on such topic and will gladly but heartlessly show how you fall short on your premisses.

The core question is to ask if you have a better alternative, not to know if science is always 100% accurate.