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Aug 28 2011 10:43pm
Quote (OsD @ Aug 29 2011 03:17am)
i dont think Tobi thought that they joint shinobi force would counter his forces so well.. and the joint shinobi isn't cleaning them up, gaara and the 3rd tsuchikage and getting ROFLSTOMPED right now lol. But Tobi only wants 1.. well 2 things technically from the shinobi forces which are naruto and bee. Not only that, Tobi's plan worked. Bee and Naruto are going to the front lines.


Ah see, This doesnt make sense. Instead of sneaking in and taking Bee and Naruto he has informed the entire Shinobi world of his plan. I wouldnt know this for sure but I think its harder to capture people while an entire army is watching. He did it with just a bunch of zetsu's. Declaring war without any real threat. He must have known what kabuto was planning. otherwise it seems reckless. More work then is needed. Also If kabuto never joined with Madara would naruto and bee still be joining the front lines?

You see how the fight with gaara and tsuchikage is going right now right? They may be on the losing end but I predict they turn things around and eventually win the battle.

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It's really just cheap as hell. I still dont' think Naruto or someone with great speed would have too much of problem landing a shot on Kabuto even with his summons out. Naruto has proven against Pain that large numbers aren't necessarily an issue for him because of Rasenshuriken, and mini Rasenshuriken would probably just make it cover more range.

I think it's only a matter of time before Kabuto gets fucked and the last remnants of Orochimaru are gone forever from the show. I think he's been around for too long now. We seem to be reaching the climactic point of his part in the war seeing as how he stated that he's going to break out his trump card. I think Madara is the true mastermind and will just fuck him in the ass.


I got a feeling Kabuto is going to become a stronger presence in the manga. I also think you underestimate him. Naruto wouldn't just stroll in and hit kabuto. He was a High level ninja back then and now hes even nastier with most if not all of orochimaru's ability. Kabuto plays the fool but hes really a mastermind in his own right. I always thought he was smarter then Oro just afraid of his ability now that he has it I think hes even stronger then oro ever was or ever would be.
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Aug 28 2011 10:48pm
i know you werent here when we talked botu it but we basically said that Kabuto is the next main bad guy in the series ``
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Aug 28 2011 10:50pm
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Ah see, This doesnt make sense. Instead of sneaking in and taking Bee and Naruto he has informed the entire Shinobi world of his plan. I wouldnt know this for sure but I think its harder to capture people while an entire army is watching. He did it with just a bunch of zetsu's. Declaring war without any real threat. He must have known what kabuto was planning. otherwise it seems reckless. More work then is needed. Also If kabuto never joined with Madara would naruto and bee still be joining the front lines?

You see how the fight with gaara and tsuchikage is going right now right? They may be on the losing end but I predict they turn things around and eventually win the battle.



I got a feeling Kabuto is going to become a stronger presence in the manga. I also think you underestimate him. Naruto wouldn't just stroll in and hit kabuto. He was a High level ninja back then and now hes even nastier with most if not all of orochimaru's ability. Kabuto plays the fool but hes really a mastermind in his own right. I always thought he was smarter then Oro just afraid of his ability now that he has it I think hes even stronger then oro ever was or ever would be.


you forget, Zetsu is can become any of their ninjas, well obviously the joint shinobi army has to win, this is manga, not the end of the world. No it makes sense because there was a meeting about the akatsuki between the kage's anyways. They were going to be hunted down. Zetsu is just a pawn for madara we both know this, He obviously had a plan to fuck up the joint shinobi army, more zetsu's can be made, more ninjas cannot.

Agreed on the kabuto thing btw :P well said.
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Aug 28 2011 10:55pm
Madara wasn't relying on the number of his army, even without Kabuto, his plan was to sneak attack at night using zetsu's, which btw only Naruto on his 9 tails mode can detect :3
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Aug 28 2011 11:40pm
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Ah see, This doesnt make sense. Instead of sneaking in and taking Bee and Naruto he has informed the entire Shinobi world of his plan. I wouldnt know this for sure but I think its harder to capture people while an entire army is watching. He did it with just a bunch of zetsu's. Declaring war without any real threat. He must have known what kabuto was planning. otherwise it seems reckless. More work then is needed. Also If kabuto never joined with Madara would naruto and bee still be joining the front lines?

You see how the fight with gaara and tsuchikage is going right now right? They may be on the losing end but I predict they turn things around and eventually win the battle.



I got a feeling Kabuto is going to become a stronger presence in the manga. I also think you underestimate him. Naruto wouldn't just stroll in and hit kabuto. He was a High level ninja back then and now hes even nastier with most if not all of orochimaru's ability. Kabuto plays the fool but hes really a mastermind in his own right. I always thought he was smarter then Oro just afraid of his ability now that he has it I think hes even stronger then oro ever was or ever would be.


He might be stronger than Oro, but I don't think that qualifies him to beat Naruto right off the bat. I don't deny his ability, I'm just saying that Naruto would be the candidate to beat him. He's got the 4th's speed, and let's face it, Kabuto isn't going to be beating him in cqc anytime soon, but then again who is right now? Naruto has one of the best long ranged techniques in the series that covers just a stupid amount of range. Using that to keep the summons on their toes, I could see him finding a pretty nice way to get in close to Kabuto. Then again, you also have to factor in several extremely powerful ninja fighting Naruto as well. I'm not saying it would be completely easy for Naruto to beat Kabuto, but he's definitely one of the best matchups. Sasuke is probably going to be the one to take Kabuto out in all honesty though. It would probably be over an attempt to get the Sharingan again.

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Aug 28 2011 11:45pm
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He might be stronger than Oro, but I don't think that qualifies him to beat Naruto right off the bat. I don't deny his ability, I'm just saying that Naruto would be the candidate to beat him. He's got the 4th's speed, and let's face it, Kabuto isn't going to be beating him in cqc anytime soon, but then again who is right now? Naruto has one of the best long ranged techniques in the series that covers just a stupid amount of range. Using that to keep the summons on their toes, I could see him finding a pretty nice way to get in close to Kabuto. Then again, you also have to factor in several extremely powerful ninja fighting Naruto as well. I'm not saying it would be completely easy for Naruto to beat Kabuto, but he's definitely one of the best matchups. Sasuke is probably going to be the one to take Kabuto out in all honesty though. It would probably be over an attempt to get the Sharingan again.


that would make sense, kabuto wanted to be like orochi so he dies in a way orochi would.
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Aug 29 2011 12:25am
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He might be stronger than Oro, but I don't think that qualifies him to beat Naruto right off the bat. I don't deny his ability, I'm just saying that Naruto would be the candidate to beat him. He's got the 4th's speed, and let's face it, Kabuto isn't going to be beating him in cqc anytime soon, but then again who is right now? Naruto has one of the best long ranged techniques in the series that covers just a stupid amount of range. Using that to keep the summons on their toes, I could see him finding a pretty nice way to get in close to Kabuto. Then again, you also have to factor in several extremely powerful ninja fighting Naruto as well. I'm not saying it would be completely easy for Naruto to beat Kabuto, but he's definitely one of the best matchups. Sasuke is probably going to be the one to take Kabuto out in all honesty though. It would probably be over an attempt to get the Sharingan again.


yea i agree madara gunna be like hmmm kabuto ya kno wat here have sasuke

madara walks up to sasuke hey try out ur new eyes
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Aug 29 2011 01:23am
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you forget, Zetsu is can become any of their ninjas, well obviously the joint shinobi army has to win, this is manga, not the end of the world. No it makes sense because there was a meeting about the akatsuki between the kage's anyways. They were going to be hunted down. Zetsu is just a pawn for madara we both know this, He obviously had a plan to fuck up the joint shinobi army, more zetsu's can be made, more ninjas cannot.

Agreed on the kabuto thing btw :P well said.


I didn't forget and I expected you or someone to bring this up. I figured if I included it my post would be huge. I don't think naruto is the only thing that can sense zetsu's. Maybe the frogs? I dont know. Seems to convenient naruto is the ONLY one who can spot the zetsu's.

As far as the Kage's meeting on the summit, I remember there being a disagreement between all of the kage's. None of them wanted to work together and were accusing each other of involvement. It wasn't until sasuke attacked the summit and madara rescued him (revealing his plan) did the kage's decide to work together. If madara influenced the nations to fight against each other and used his army to get bee and naruto I think things would have been easier. Alls im saying is.. It seems like Madara knew he was going to have a large enough army to win this battle. With or without kabuto. There is something we are missing. Why did he wait til now to fight everyone at once? Why did he unite them? Is it possible he knew from the start kabuto was going to help/attempt to betray him. Or is he so overconfident in his plan he made a mistake. Maybe he has something much bigger in mind lol.
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Aug 29 2011 01:33am
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I didn't forget and I expected you or someone to bring this up. I figured if I included it my post would be huge. I don't think naruto is the only thing that can sense zetsu's. Maybe the frogs? I dont know. Seems to convenient naruto is the ONLY one who can spot the zetsu's.

As far as the Kage's meeting on the summit, I remember there being a disagreement between all of the kage's. None of them wanted to work together and were accusing each other of involvement. It wasn't until sasuke attacked the summit and madara rescued him (revealing his plan) did the kage's decide to work together. If madara influenced the nations to fight against each other and used his army to get bee and naruto I think things would have been easier. Alls im saying is.. It seems like Madara knew he was going to have a large enough army to win this battle. With or without kabuto. There is something we are missing. Why did he wait til now to fight everyone at once? Why did he unite them? Is it possible he knew from the start kabuto was going to help/attempt to betray him. Or is he so overconfident in his plan he made a mistake. Maybe he has something much bigger in mind lol.


Or he's just #1 troll
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Aug 29 2011 07:59am
Quote (Size @ 29 Aug 2011 19:33)
Or he's just #1 troll


I agree to dis agree on this one.

and no, he didn't know anything about Kabuto or wasn't palnning on recruiting him at all, he got black mailed by his momma's corpse and got scared.

so basically...

Kabuto is the #1 Troll
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