im just kinda upset with ppl saying 3rd is weak

but i wonder wat madara is doing with the other rinnegan like hes only using one mabe he gave the other to sasuke and thats gunna make him just as strong as naruto?

edit: or he gave it to black zetsu?

This post was edited by mcbatch on Aug 28 2011 12:07pm

people only say hes weak because of the timeline the story is set in. if he wasnt 90 years old and he actually fought people it would be different but the story wasnt about him

holy freaking crap, your right, what happen to the other sharingan + rinnegan... if zetsu has it OH MAN TEAM OP. lol.
Let me get this straight, you guys are simply using your opinions(some of you guys)
the 3rd hokage was considered the strongest and greatest hokage EVER, you guys simply dont understand that
hes stronger then the 1st 2nd and 4th, despite the fact that he was beat by orochimaru.
Orochimaru = jiraiya is saying rock = rock, this is not a game of who beats who. Itachi clearly stated that jiraiya was just as strong as kisame + itachi.
Jiraiya was being held back in his fight vs orochimaru AND he didnt even get to go sage. As strong as orochimaru was, jiraiya was much stronger at his time of death.

i'll give you my top 5 tier for people that are alive.
keep in mind i wont be using Zetsu cause we dont know his strength

Madara (obvious super power now that he has rinnegan, but hes not that far ahead of everyone else)
Naruto (obv is obv)
Sasuke (obv is even more obv)
Kabuto (idk how strong he is, but with the strength of his edo tensei's he clearly owns his spot on the top 5)
Bee (friends with the 8 tails and has full control as a jinchuriki.. he is obviously strong)

There are plenty of other top tier ninjas but those 5 are the current secret weapons of war.

didnt madara lose a sharingan in his fight with konan?

I can't help myself think that some of you guys are just trolling >.<

Madara have over 9000 eyes.

but the one he lost was shisuis eye? or one that he could use izanagi with

I agree with most of that list, but I simply won't acknowledge Kabuto as strong because he would probably lose in direct combat to pretty much everyone. The best he could probably do would be use edo tensei x 10 and have the puppets fight for him. I completely forgot Killer Bee when making my other list. He goes in my 10 spot. I mean, look what he did to Sasuke and the rest of his team... If not for Karin, Sasuke would have died, plain and simple. He only won because he was basically saved twice and that he just spammed away with his Mangekyo techniques. Hell, he never really even defeated Bee. Be is an extremely lethal opponent.

oh yeah, well thats explains why he has space for a rinnegan lol.


no shisui's eye never got to madara, Danzo crushed it before madara could get it.



well he has the skin and most of the body of orochimaru, his chakra is quiet strong and he took tsunade 1v1 NP.
hes definitely top tier. And you can't just leave out the edo tensei's. That is a jutsu, just like everything else ninjas use. Whether hes strong or not the edo tensei make up for that

Didn't he escape Kakashi np back when he was in the chunin exams? (I know it's not the same as a fight, and I know he was op then as a gennin, but to pass as one and then just ditch Kakashi np seems pretty good imo and I'm sure he's not just been sitting on his ass all this time...)