i know the concept is obvious....its just at first i was thinking it was anti MS, but imp it makes more sense thats its only anti itachi ms

yeah. it is probably something to counter itachi's sharingan, and ofc a big talk with naruto like the 4th and kushina.
Tobi is not madara. this is a world of deceitfulness and lies. why the fuck would he come out saying DAMN BITCHEST IM MADARA TEAM AND START A WAR.
Even madara wouldn't have done something so foolish.
Although we can't prove its not madara. i will put my faith into its not madara. but rather another obsessed and powerful sharingan user

the crow is like spinach for naruto

I still think he knew all along

the itachi that died was a clone that was so overpowered it became it's own person
Which left itachi horribly disfigured somehow

Itachi is actually the one behind the mask

(Good and evil Itachi)

This post was edited by AWHavoc on Jul 28 2011 09:50am

Naruto probably doesn't need Itachi's power to beat Sasuke. He's gotten to the point where only a few people could stand to fuck with him at all.

And I still think that it's useless to over-think the whole Tobi-Madara thing. Just because they say that they don't have proof that he's Madara doesn't mean he's Shisui right off the bat.

So doesn't Itachi say
"Madara... so you knew about me" after Naurto brought up the village massacre?
Didn't Tobi/Madara tell Sasuke (Maybe Naruto?) that he also participated in it?
or was that another person.... Can't find the chapter...

But yeah... if that happened... why would Itachi be surprised that Madara knew about it? I mean, he said he was there after all...
more lies?

The whole past is a lie! The uchiha (Sp?) just moved to arkansas.

or maybe that proves that tobi isnt madara

maybe itachi knows who tobi is and understood that naruto only knows him as madara. so when he said madara told me he made the connection between tobi and fake madara

Yeah that was kinda what I was trying to put out there... lol
Seems like some good supporting evidence...

rats

you got it wrong.. when he said that he meant about itachi doing all for sasuke sake ,about how itachi made sasuke hate him and in the end giving his eye to sasuke . Madara knew all this and whit that infos he forged sasuke after his own will