I do not wish to know what google has to say about it. Google is just another made-up thing that consists of what we believe to be knowledge. It is not.

I want you to tell me what it is and what it consists of that you can absolutely say there is no cat made of it.

I mean, you must know if you can state something like that. You don't want to tell me that you are just going around throwing facts like that without knowing if it is true or not?

This post was edited by LindeRKV on Dec 6 2013 08:03am

why do I have to give you a history lesson and biology lesson to state that a cat is not made of the 17th century.

if you do not trust google there are books on both topics, but basically the 17th century was a period of time and a cat is a small furry mammal.

and again you are just trying to shift the burden of proof on me.

if you think a cat is made of the 17th century go get you facts about cats and the 17th century and present them to me and tell me how one is comprised of the other.

You don't have to. I know these things myself. But you should be able to explain why things are how you say they are. Saying that this can't be because it just can't, isn't serious argument. Period of time and small furry animal is so basic definition of these. Does this mean something cannot be non-material?

How about that warsaw circle, did you look it up?

I say cat can be made of 17th century by stating that something can consist of immaterial. By that I mean, you don't know what exists beyond our knowledge. You don't know if it exists or not till you have seen it possible or impossible. One way it could be, other it couldn't so there is no way of finding out.

I am sure you know about Schrödinger's cat. It doesn't fall into category you brought up but matches what I am trying to explain. You don't know till you have seen which it is.

If you think about it, it is nothing fictional. Even though it contradicts what we think is a fact.

This post was edited by LindeRKV on Dec 6 2013 08:39am

no, I do not need to look it up tbh.

if you gave me a idea about what it is about I might look at it if it interests me.

but I can argue anything supernatural dose not exist including flying humans, and if you want to prove otherwise go ahead.

just because I can not explain the universe or whatever you guys turn the argument into dose not mean your argument wins by default.

if you have evidence for flying humans, I would like to see it. otherwise I can say they do not exist.

just as I can say there is not a cat made of the 17th century.

still dose not explain how a cat is made of the 17th century.

I can tell you it is not what you have used to see as a circle. Which means circle isn't necessarily a circle. Now lets go back few posts - I have not said humans CAN fly nor do I have interest of proving that they do, because they don't. This is what I believe because I have no proof that one can or have been flying. Although I am not saying is that there is zero possibility that it won't happen in all the time of the universe. I couldn't know.



It does explain how it can be made of it. I am not saying there is cat made of 17th century. As many other theories, there is one that says there is a possibility that there is not only one universe but there are endless amounts of them. I cannot say I believe in this theory particularly but it is one. Different parallel universes where nothing may be the way we think things are. There is no proof that this theory is true or not which is why we call it a theory.

This post was edited by LindeRKV on Dec 6 2013 08:55am

why could you not know?

is it because of that chi video? or do you believe we "store energy" like OP said?

even so I have many questions about that stored energy that remain unanswered..

I mean what would it take in your mind for humans to fly? and explain how these things would happen given the laws of physics.

and if you have something outside of physics please provide evidence for that claim and show how we could achieve flight by these means

well speaking of flying humans I went looking up Michio Kaku.

He has a great talk about physics of the future in which he explains one way we might achieve flight by room temperature super conductors allowing us to negate the force of gravity via the earths magnetism.

but found this video instead and thought it appropriate.