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Dec 30 2010 08:45pm
Quote (Vicc @ Dec 30 2010 06:42pm)
we've had this discussion before. :p
He is able to use that technique because he is rubber, but after excessive use of gear 2 it reduces his life.

I'll just take it out from wikipedia.


i dont trust the wikipedia that much
sometimes its not accurate
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Dec 30 2010 08:56pm
Quote (Mutant @ 30 Dec 2010 21:45)
i dont trust the wikipedia that much
sometimes its not accurate


It's what Rob Lucci said.
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Dec 30 2010 08:57pm
Quote (Vicc @ Dec 30 2010 07:56pm)
It's what Rob Lucci said.


seems to be taken out of context

Quote (ben6660 @ Dec 30 2010 07:08pm)
ur forgetting the revival part due the hormone shot or w/e its called by ivancov, twice



how else would he sail the grand line :p


yes but we were discussing gear2 shortening his life
Quote (Vicc @ Dec 30 2010 07:42pm)
we've had this discussion before. :p
He is able to use that technique because he is rubber, but after excessive use of gear 2 it reduces his life.

I'll just take it out from wikipedia.


we'll have to wait for the english dubs to get an accurate read, because the translations are always going to be crude
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Dec 30 2010 09:00pm
Lucci's convo with Luffy when they were fighting.

Quote (Vicc @ 22 Nov 2010 23:32)
Okay here we go, last 1/4th of ep 302.

Lucci: Mysterious steam... a strange, red body...
What's happening inside this man's body?
:o Oh, is that it!?
Just as I thought. It's just like steroids. You use your legs as pumps to speed the flow of blood...
If you were a normal human, that much rise in your blood pressure would be enough to burst your heart, but as your organs and blood vessels are rubber, you can handle it. An ability only usable by a rubber-human. You're surely pushing your body past its limits. Your body is hardly able to withstand it! You aren't very smart; you're shortening your life itself!

Luffy: It's better than having everything taken away from me!
I'll do everything I can!


10 pages back.

Back then someone said it was only cause he was using it for the first time, but I highly doubt that.

This post was edited by Vicc on Dec 30 2010 09:01pm
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Dec 30 2010 09:28pm
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Lucci's convo with Luffy when they were fighting.



10 pages back.

Back then someone said it was only cause he was using it for the first time, but I highly doubt that.


it's only speculation from lucci's point of view

"You're Surely pushing your body etc etc"


doesn't mean it's a for sure thing
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Lucci's convo with Luffy when they were fighting.



10 pages back.

Back then someone said it was only cause he was using it for the first time, but I highly doubt that.


lets compare it to something.
take Naruto for instance, his new technique... spiraling shuriken or w/e they called it. when he used that in the beginning it was badly damaging his body, then once he mastered sage mode he could use it freely w/o it completely exhausting him.

its most likely the same with Luffys gear second. they arent going to introduce a technique like that for the main character of this show, only to have it backfire and harm him in the long run.
of course if they are planning on killing him off at the end of the show, then ya it could make sense... but i doubt they will do that.

(this is only in regards to gear second, not the adrenaline injection)

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lets compare it to something.
take Naruto for instance, his new technique... spiraling shuriken or w/e they called it. when he used that in the beginning it was badly damaging his body, then once he mastered sage mode he could use it freely w/o it completely exhausting him.

its most likely the same with Luffys gear second. they arent going to introduce a technique like that for the main character of this show, only to have it backfire and harm him in the long run.
of course if they are planning on killing him off at the end of the show then ya it could make sense... but i doubt they will do that.

(this is only in regards to gear second, not the adrenaline injection)


you're going to get flamed for comparing the #1 read manga/watched anime(NARUTO) to the #3(one piece)
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you're going to get flamed for comparing the #1 read manga/watched anime(NARUTO) to the #3(one piece)


how come?

i make a valid point =/
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Dec 30 2010 10:16pm
Quote (Marley @ 30 Dec 2010 23:08)
how come?

i make a valid point =/


not really.
Instead you should compare Gear second to Sage mode, except Sage mode can be compeltely mastered.
Sure, Luffy got used to it and can use it for longer periods of time, but I'm pretty sure overusing it WOULD shorten his life somewhat.
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Quote (Vicc @ Dec 31 2010 04:16am)
not really.
Instead you should compare Gear second to Sage mode, except Sage mode can be compeltely mastered.
Sure, Luffy got used to it and can use it for longer periods of time, but I'm pretty sure overusing it WOULD shorten his life somewhat.


the problem with both of them is that they were not strong enough to use the ability w/o it damaging their body...
naruto got stronger, luffy got stronger.

why would they allow luffy to continue to use this ability unless they were infact planning on killing him in the end of the show?
hes been using the technique since cp9, yet there has been no sign of Luffy weakening.

u cant just say its going to shorten his life and expect to see signs of damage 20 years from now.
it would show up almost right away, yet here he is in the marines headquarters after two (so called life shortening) adrenaline shots and many extended uses of gear second.
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