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Jun 21 2011 07:56am
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senju IS a bloodline


don't be dumb, it's a clan
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Jun 21 2011 08:38am
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don't be dumb, it's a clan


wrong, it is one of the 6 paths, or bloodlines


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Jun 21 2011 09:27am
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wrong, it is one of the 6 paths, or bloodlines


right, and sharingan isn't a kekeigenkai, but uchiha is a kekeigenkai......and yuki is a kekeigenkai, not ice release..and kimimaru's kekeigenkai is called kaguya, not shikotsumyaku.....the kekeigenaki that the first has is called wood release, his clan name is senju (aka his last name)...

oh boy, we're going to discuss this again....there is no 6 paths... when tobi said nagato was "the 3rd of the sixth paths," if you read the japanese version it translates to "you were the third rikudo" where rikudo is the SAGE of the 6th paths... meaning nagato was the 3rd person to possess the powers of the sage of the sixth paths, the first being the actual sage.


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right, and sharingan isn't a kekeigenkai, but uchiha is a kekeigenkai......and yuki is a kekeigenkai, not ice release..and kimimaru's kekeigenkai is called kaguya, not shikotsumyaku.....the kekeigenaki that the first has is called wood release, his clan name is senju (aka his last name)...

oh boy, we're going to discuss this again....there is no 6 paths... when tobi said nagato was "the 3rd of the sixth paths," if you read the japanese version it translates to "you were the third rikudo" where rikudo is the SAGE of the 6th paths... meaning nagato was the 3rd person to possess the powers of the sage of the sixth paths, the first being the actual sage.


incorrect, you're basing this off of a crude translation, anyone with a brain knows what happens when you translate DIRECTLY from japanese to english, you get a butchered translation, and it can change the perception people view things :)
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Jun 21 2011 09:32am
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incorrect, you're basing this off of a crude translation, anyone with a brain knows what happens when you translate DIRECTLY from japanese to english, you get a butchered translation, and it can change the perception people view things :)


so, when japanese people read rikudo, they're not suppose to see rikudo? the butchered translation is what made you think there were 6 paths where tobi is collecting them all..like pokemon

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so, when japanese people read rikudo, they're not suppose to see rikudo?


the word itself is there, but the context changes :)


to understand what is meant you have to read the sentence as a whole, because there is no difference between the japanese word for "third" and "three"

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the word itself is there, but the context changes :)


the direct translation is rikudo=six paths, where it refers to the person that discovered ninjutsu, like konan said when tobi explained he had the powers of both senju and uchiha "that's the powers of the six paths, you don't have that kind of power"...if you accept the translation that 6 paths= 6 different paths that tobi's collecting, then you'd have to assume that senju+uchiha=the total 6 paths, therefore tobi is done with his search because he already has the powers of the six paths..

when u read the early translation when it first came out, it was skewed a bit to make you think tobi was collecting 6 different paths because rikudo sennin was translated into 6 paths, when it should've been more clear by emphasizing the sage of the six paths for english readers....



that's a more recent translation

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Jun 21 2011 09:39am
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the word itself is there, but the context changes :)


to understand what is meant you have to read the sentence as a whole, because there is no difference between the japanese word for "third" and "three"


道仙人 = Rikudō Sennin....not much to discuss about that when it was in the japanese raw version in that order...i don't have to explain what sennin is do i?

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道仙人 = Rikudō Sennin....not much to discuss about that when it was in the japanese raw version in that order...i don't have to explain what sennin is do i?


you have to take the whole statement, not just the word :)


the japanese word for 6 is rohku http://www.wikihow.com/Count-to-Ten-in-Japanese


the context is simply mistaken, and the ms translators are usually wrong about most of these things because they only know the language in theory they havent learned to apply it including context :)
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