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Jul 30 2014 12:07am
Quote (Uguu @ Jun 24 2014 10:34pm)
brotherhood looks boring on the first 10min mark of ep 1 =/
I think I'll quit fmab and blind since im done with the original fma


how the hell can u quit on the first eps? give a few episodes a try
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Jul 30 2014 01:46am
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how the hell can u quit on the first eps? give a few episodes a try


It was boring, I did rewatch it til the end, I didn't like the first ep AT ALL. Boring
Next 10 ep was boring since I watched fma
Then finished watching rest because I was curious when I heard they revived something and not the mother... Who did they revive? Those white dolls that needed philosopher stones?
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Jul 30 2014 02:06am
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In my opinion, FMAB is MUCH better than Full Metal Alchemist, I've seen both. Definitely worth the watch and gives a much more engaging story with a more fulfilling ending.


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Quote (Uguu @ Jun 24 2014 09:34pm)
brotherhood looks boring on the first 10min mark of ep 1 =/
I think I'll quit fmab and blind since im done with the original fma


My brother did the same thing, except he made it 3 episodes in. I finally convinced him to watch the entire thing and he's thanked me multiple times for talking him into it. FMAB far surpasses the original, it's not even close.

FMA went off on it's own because it got ahead of the manga and wanted to keep making episodes, that's why the first few episodes seem similar (boring/filler) when you've already watched the original. Unlike the original FMA, FMAB actually sticks to the manga and goes somewhere.

Watch the damn thing and come back and thank us later. If you liked the original, you will love FMAB.

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It was boring, I did rewatch it til the end, I didn't like the first ep AT ALL. Boring
Next 10 ep was boring since I watched fma
Then finished watching rest because I was curious when I heard they revived something and not the mother... Who did they revive? Those white dolls that needed philosopher stones?


You obviously haven't watched it at all....

It explains everything, it's not a complicated show. Just go watch the damn thing.

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Jul 30 2014 02:11am
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My brother did the same thing, except he made it 3 episodes in. I finally convinced him to watch the entire thing and he's thanked me multiple times for talking him into it. FMAB far surpasses the original, it's not even close.

FMA went off on it's own because it got ahead of the manga and wanted to keep making episodes, that's why the first few episodes seem similar (boring/filler) when you've already watched the original. Unlike the original FMA, FMAB actually sticks to the manga and goes somewhere.

Watch the damn thing and come back and thank us later. If you liked the original, you will love FMAB.



You obviously haven't watched it at all....

It explains everything, it's not a complicated show. Just go watch the damn thing.


I have watched fmab
and they did not answer the question
All they did was dig up the "mother's body" and found out it was a male and has diff hair color
Then told their teacher same shit, same problem and then nothing... they just said they were transmuting someone else
Yes, the elric brothers were prob transmuting alphonse but what about the teacher? Also, wasn't alphonse's hair blonde, not black like the corpse's?
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Jul 30 2014 02:23am
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I have watched fmab
and they did not answer the question
All they did was dig up the "mother's body" and found out it was a male and has diff hair color
Then told their teacher same shit, same problem and then nothing... they just said they were transmuting someone else
Yes, the elric brothers were prob transmuting alphonse but what about the teacher? Also, wasn't alphonse's hair blonde, not black like the corpse's?


Seriously? That's what you're fixating on out of the entire series? It was explained pretty thoroughly (I thought anyways) that human transmutation was never possible to begin with. Attempting to break a sacred law of alchemy comes with a hefty price and does nothing more than bring back an inhuman monster that had no relation to the person that revival was attempted on. The white dolls were created using philosopher stones, their power source came from something made using human transmutation but they had no actual relation with anyone who was used for transmutation.

It was all covered fairly well. It's not exactly something that was vastly important. I saw it as more so of a lesson that was learned to dissuade them and anyone else from ever purposefully attempting human transmutation. Everyone knew it was taboo but people still believed it was possible, after the Elric brothers discovered that the transmuted body had no relation to their mother (same for Izumi ) it became a reality that it was always impossible and something that could never be achieved.

I'm glad you went and watched it though. Maybe you're not like me but I can't stand a story without closure, the original FMA drove me insane because of that. I thought FMAB tied up everything nicely and I really enjoyed learning more about Hohenheim, I thought his whole back story was fascinating.

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Seriously? That's what you're fixating on out of the entire series? It was explained pretty thoroughly (I thought anyways) that human transmutation was never possible to begin with. Attempting to break a sacred law of alchemy comes with a hefty price and does nothing more than bring back an inhuman monster that had no relation to the person that revival was attempted on. The white dolls were created using philosopher stones, their power source came from something made using human transmutation but they had no actual relation with anyone who was used for transmutation.

It was all covered fairly well. It's not exactly something that was vastly important. I saw it as more so of a lesson that was learned to dissuade them and anyone else from ever purposefully attempting human transmutation. Everyone knew it was taboo but people still believed it was possible, after the Elric brothers discovered that the transmuted body had no relation to their mother (same for Izumi ) it became a reality that it was always impossible and something that could never be achieved.

I'm glad you went and watched it though. Maybe you're not like me but I can't stand a story without closure, the original FMA drove me insane because of that. I thought FMAB tied up everything nicely and I really enjoyed learning more about Hohenheim, I thought his whole back story was fascinating.


Okay, that's nice and all
But they said that human transmutation was to make an army aka the white dolls. And to activate them or make them alive, you feed them philosopher stones. I mean they had the bodies already made and to "start" them the army gave them stones.
So doesn't that mean they performed human transmutation to make the bodies of the dolls first then put in souls via stone?
If that's what human transmutation is, then why can fma human transmutate himself from one dimension to another?
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Jul 30 2014 03:18am
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Okay, that's nice and all
But they said that human transmutation was to make an army aka the white dolls. And to activate them or make them alive, you feed them philosopher stones. I mean they had the bodies already made and to "start" them the army gave them stones.
So doesn't that mean they performed human transmutation to make the bodies of the dolls first then put in souls via stone?
If that's what human transmutation is, then why can fma human transmutate himself from one dimension to another?


The dolls were soulless homunculi being powered by Philosopher Stones. I don't recall it ever explaining the process of making a homonculus during the series. My personal take on it was that the other Homunculi made from pieces of Father's personality were given purpose by those pieces of personality and then life from the Philosopher Stones . The dolls didn't have any life to them before being infused with the Philosopher Stones and they still didn't have purpose after, which just made them mindless killing machines. The only ones who really ever talked about the dolls were the Generals at Central Command and they obviously didn't have a fucking clue about them. Father told them what to do knowing full well that they would just fucking kill everything they saw. I think the dolls in general were just a ruse, just another way for Father to manipulate Central Command into believing immortality was a possibility for them. They wouldn't serve any sort of purpose to him and I can't see any other reason he'd even bother making them.

That last part with Ed using transmutation on himself always seemed a bit off to me. Every other instance of someone being brought to the gate was because they tried to revive someone from the dead, other forms of human transmutation (making philosopher stones) never brought people to the gate so that part always seemed like lazy writing. Perhaps they were implying that he was trying to bring back Al there or something but I really don't know. It's an anime and sometimes you gotta just look past shit like that. I do agree that was odd though and it never seemed right to me either.

I was pretty sure at one point they said the dolls were homonculi but I'm not positive, it's been a year or so since I've watched the whole thing.

Good talk, I'm going to bed man. Hopefully someone can shed some light on the Ed instance of transmutation at the end of the series for me as well, I'm still clueless as to how the fuck that worked.

This post was edited by jadeoshbogosh on Jul 30 2014 03:21am
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Jul 30 2014 04:33am
it's the equal exchange rule, for philosopher stones, you offer sever humans and you get one
Ed had to offer something to the god for his brothers soul, so he offered his gate to alchemy, which was deemed enough to get them both out
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Jul 30 2014 08:08am
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it's the equal exchange rule, for philosopher stones, you offer sever humans and you get one
Ed had to offer something to the god for his brothers soul, so he offered his gate to alchemy, which was deemed enough to get them both out


yeah this is the kids "friendship prevails" ending, just like in pokemon movie 1 ending where all the pokemons started crying for ash and then he was revived
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