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Aug 25 2013 10:42pm
for those of u already watches this...


plz explain the last part where jesse found out his ricin cigarette is gone. what's the big deal?
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Aug 25 2013 10:52pm
Jesse didn't find his ricin cigarette gone, he knew it was long gone.

Originally in S4 he suspected Hule lifted the pack from him for Walter (which was right, but Walt convinced him otherwise). This time, Hule lifted his weed bag, and he realized that when he patted himself down and found it missing. However, when looking at his cigarette box (which is a completely different box from the other one), he simply connected the now-confirmed weed snatch by Hule to the old risin box snatch. Therefore Walter did lift the old box after all. Knowing that Walter tried to steer him towards Gus being the culprit in the past, and knowing that the real poison was Lily of the Valley, he pieced together Walter's old plan to poison Brock and frame Gus so he could turn Jesse against Gus.

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Aug 25 2013 10:55pm
discussing it in the other thread..

http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=68609300&f=197
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Aug 25 2013 10:56pm
Quote (AnomanderRake @ Aug 25 2013 09:52pm)
Jesse didn't find his ricin cigarette gone, he knew it was long gone.

Originally in S4 he suspected Hule lifted the pack from him for Walter (which was right, but Walt convinced him otherwise). This time, Hule lifted his weed bag, and he realized that when he patted himself down and found it missing. However, when looking at his cigarette box (which is a completely different box from the other one), he simply connected the now-confirmed weed snatch by Hule to the old risin box snatch. Therefore Walter did lift the old box after all. Knowing that Walter tried to steer him towards Gus being the culprit in the past, and knowing that the real poison was Lily of the Valley, he pieced together Walter's old plan to poison Brock and frame Gus so he could turn Jesse against Gus.


why does it matter now? Gus is dead and Brock is alive. what's the point of exposing his old plan?
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Aug 25 2013 10:57pm
Quote (Jaliy @ Aug 26 2013 12:56am)
why does it matter now?  Gus is dead and Brock is alive.  what's the point of exposing his old plan?


Jesse knowing that Walt poisoned Brock causes Jesse to turn against Walt.
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Aug 25 2013 10:58pm
Quote (kayeto @ Aug 25 2013 09:57pm)
Jesse knowing that Walt poisoned Brock causes Jesse to turn against Walt.


can someone remind me why did jesse have the ricin cigarrett in the first place?
was it to kill Gus
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Aug 25 2013 11:05pm
Quote (Jaliy @ Aug 26 2013 12:58am)
can someone remind me why did jesse have the ricin cigarrett in the first place?
was it to kill Gus


yes it was
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Aug 25 2013 11:13pm
Quote (kayeto @ Aug 25 2013 10:05pm)
yes it was


well i still think he's overreacting by burning down walter's house for something that happened way back
i mean Brock is fine, and jesse knew very well walter's been using him
so why stir the pot now
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Aug 26 2013 02:06am
Quote (Jaliy @ Aug 26 2013 12:13am)
well i still think he's overreacting by burning down walter's house for something that happened way back
i mean Brock is fine, and jesse knew very well walter's been using him
so why stir the pot now


Walk has manipulated Jesse since day1 of their relationship...

Maybe he is just THAT sick of him being so manipulative as hinted to with the desert scene.
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Aug 26 2013 02:49am
Quote (Kevorkian @ Aug 26 2013 04:06am)
Walk has manipulated Jesse since day1 of their relationship...

Maybe he is just THAT sick of him being so manipulative as hinted to with the desert scene.


I agree that is the underlying reason for the anger, but I also think that this particular brand of manipulation made it get completely out of control. Brock and his mom were borderline becoming like family members to Jesse.
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