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Aug 22 2017 11:34pm
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Agreed, that's why I just said it would make sense for him to. But the guy I was replying to said that Bronn's current situation (he hasn't switched anything) gives Cersei a reason to kill him.

Though, now that I think about it, Cersei is going down the crazy "Med Queen" spiral so it wouldn't surprise me to see her kill him even though it makes no sense.


Part of me hopes he is already on his way to Danny(aka Tyrion), or will switch sides at the "peace summit". Getting the wonder team back together!
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Part of me hopes he is already on his way to Danny(aka Tyrion), or will switch sides at the "peace summit". Getting the wonder team back together!


I feel like, at this point, the show has put so much effort into referencing him "getting his castle" that he has to end up getting one.

So which castle makes sense? Surely not Winterfell. The show hasn't bothered to talk about Storm's End. The Eyrie wouldn't make much sense.

Highgarden and Casterly Rock would seem to be the most likely suspects. Jaime and Cersei are going to die and leave no heirs. If Tyrion lives, he can delegate it to Bronn. Even if Tyrion dies, he might be ale to convince Dany to give it to Bronn.

Or the show pulls a complete 180 on us and all the people who like Bronn die, forcing him to end up with "Castle Black" (which is hardly a real castle). Oh cruel irony.
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Aug 23 2017 01:40am
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I feel like, at this point, the show has put so much effort into referencing him "getting his castle" that he has to end up getting one.

So which castle makes sense? Surely not Winterfell. The show hasn't bothered to talk about Storm's End. The Eyrie wouldn't make much sense.

Highgarden and Casterly Rock would seem to be the most likely suspects. Jaime and Cersei are going to die and leave no heirs. If Tyrion lives, he can delegate it to Bronn. Even if Tyrion dies, he might be ale to convince Dany to give it to Bronn.

Or the show pulls a complete 180 on us and all the people who like Bronn die, forcing him to end up with "Castle Black" (which is hardly a real castle). Oh cruel irony.



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Aug 23 2017 01:42am
Quote (Kayeto @ Aug 22 2017 09:24pm)
Agreed, that's why I just said it would make sense for him to. But the guy I was replying to said that Bronn's current situation (he hasn't switched anything) gives Cersei a reason to kill him.

Though, now that I think about it, Cersei is going down the crazy "Med Queen" spiral so it wouldn't surprise me to see her kill him even though it makes no sense.


It makes perfect sense and you just explained why. We know Jamie has to kill her. How much fucked up shit will she have to do to make her brother, lover, and father of her unborn child murder her? Certainly it won't be just one thing. Killing his only friend and advisor would be a good start, don't you think? I'm not saying 100% it'll happen, but just seems logical.

Edit : and from her perspective, he put Jamie's life in danger with this fucking meeting. This is the man who killed her father, who killed her son (she thinks) and who is now allied with a woman who is coming to take EVERYTHING away from her and this wanna be fucking Knight puts him in a room with my baby daddy? Oh no mother fucker, it's time to die. I love Bronn as much as the next person, but we're bound to see some deaths very fucking soon and his seems almost too setup not to happen.

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Aug 23 2017 01:48am
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It makes perfect sense and you just explained why. We know Jamie has to kill her. How much fucked up shit will she have to do to make her brother, lover, and father of her unborn child murder her? Certainly it won't be just one thing. Killing his only friend and advisor would be a good start, don't you think? I'm not saying 100% it'll happen, but just seems logical.


If you frame the question as "How do we get from Point A (where we are now) to Point B (Jaime hating Cersei enough to kill her) then yes, having Cersei kill Bronn is a logical step that could help things get there.

All I was trying to say from the start is that Cersei killing Bronn right now would be not a logical move for her in the current situation. Now if you wanna factor the illogicality of her increasing craziness, then yes it could happen.
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If you frame the question as "How do we get from Point A (where we are now) to Point B (Jaime hating Cersei enough to kill her) then yes, having Cersei kill Bronn is a logical step that could help things get there.

All I was trying to say from the start is that Cersei killing Bronn right now would be not a logical move for her in the current situation. Now if you wanna factor the illogicality of her increasing craziness, then yes it could happen.


Also that we've only got 7 episodes for Jamie you go from where he is now to actually murdering the person he loves most and his lineage. Something has to accelerate that and this just seems like too good a stepping stone to pass up. I HOPE I'M WRONG, I just doubt it. Going to fucking hurt like hell if she does.

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Also that we've only got 7 episodes for Jamie you go from where he is now to actually murdering the person he loves most and his lineage.


not trying to disagree with you, but just curious to explore the possibilities for this:

1) Jaime knows she wildfire'd the Sept. Last time it looked like KL was getting taken over, Cersei was sitting on the throne ready to poison herself and Tommen. When Aerys saw KL was getting taken over, he was ready to wildfire everyone. If Dany seems poised to strike and Cersei is planning to do that, Jaime that may prompt Jaime to intervene again.

2) Cersei kills Tyrion the first chance she gets even after Jaime convinced her that Tyrion didn't kill Joffrey. This would piss Jaime off. He doesn't know about her prophecy and her belief that Tyrion will kill her.

3) Jaime gets convinced of the WW threat and wants to refocus their efforts on protecting humanity, but Cersei isn't on the same page.

4) Brienne's reappearance in KL sparks Jaime's conscience back to life. A poignant conversation between Brienne (acting honorable) and Cersei (acting evil) highlights their differences and helps snap Jaime into seeing how misguided his love for Cersei is..

5) Jaime finds out that Cersei plans to do some nasty necromancy shit with Qyburn that he doesn't like.

It will probably takes more than one event to bring Jaime around, these are just some thoughts that popped into my head.

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Aug 23 2017 03:08am
I think there's a good chance that Cersei's pregnancy is bs. In reality she doesn't give a fuck about anything or anyone at this point, and that includes Jamie; she's just using him, and when he realizes that, he won't be happy.

I'm pretty sure we still have a final 3 way conversation between the Lannister siblings pending, probably towards the very end of the show.
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Aug 23 2017 05:03am
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I think there's a good chance that Cersei's pregnancy is bs. In reality she doesn't give a fuck about anything or anyone at this point, and that includes Jamie; she's just using him, and when he realizes that, he won't be happy.

I'm pretty sure we still have a final 3 way conversation between the Lannister siblings pending, probably towards the very end of the show.


I think this is very possible. He was starting to break away and do things for himself, and then she dropped that on him. Now he's sucked right back in. I wouldn't be surprised at all if it was just a ploy by her to manipulate him.
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Aug 23 2017 05:04am
Quote (jadeoshbogosh @ Aug 23 2017 12:42am)
It makes perfect sense and you just explained why. We know Jamie has to kill her. How much fucked up shit will she have to do to make her brother, lover, and father of her unborn child murder her? Certainly it won't be just one thing. Killing his only friend and advisor would be a good start, don't you think? I'm not saying 100% it'll happen, but just seems logical.

Edit : and from her perspective, he put Jamie's life in danger with this fucking meeting. This is the man who killed her father, who killed her son (she thinks) and who is now allied with a woman who is coming to take EVERYTHING away from her and this wanna be fucking Knight puts him in a room with my baby daddy? Oh no mother fucker, it's time to die. I love Bronn as much as the next person, but we're bound to see some deaths very fucking soon and his seems almost too setup not to happen.


No, Jamie told her the truth and she accepted it.
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