Kylo killed Snoke exactly because he had to let go, which is exactly what he told Rey to do convincing her to join him.

Killing Snoke would relinquish him of anything that would restrain him. He doesn't want a leash, he doesn't want people to decide his fate for him.




You don't seem to understand that people have the right to be angry that they didn't develop Snoke. It's completely obvious how the story laid out. Your idea of, it is what it is, doesn't fly with movie-based conversation......it's a conversation thread, we are here to discuss what worked and what didn't work.

This post was edited by stupidkid282 on Dec 19 2017 09:47pm

Straight from a youtube video......good job




The emperor has way more screen time than Snoke. And again, just because they did it before, doesn't mean it's smart or creative to do it again.

This post was edited by stupidkid282 on Dec 19 2017 09:49pm

You aren't wrong. Anakin was intended to be entitled and whiny. What's the point in having a conflicted and whiny villain in the new trilogy though when they're recasting for 10,11, and 12 IIRC.

This post was edited by dirTyMan on Dec 19 2017 10:01pm

Kylo is way more conflicted than Anakin though.

Anakin showed rage through love, and thus turned to the dark side.


revenge was love for his mother.
love to save padme.

This post was edited by stupidkid282 on Dec 19 2017 10:05pm

I agree, what's the point in keeping him conflicted it's just bad writing at this point and it's a shame. This movie should have been the turn to complete darkness for Kylo.

I'm on the fence. I love Kylo's character. He isn't perfect, and I love that aspect. I'm open to many directions he could go in.



Maybe the "villian" will finally "win"

that would be cool

Lol, yep, was wondering where this was as well.

Every single time they did something I liked, they turned around and did something I hated. It was alright, not sure if it was better or worse than TFA, but I didn't think much of that movie either. Main difference is that I was actually excited for the next movie after TFA, I felt like they did the pandering bit, and then they'd attempt to pull off something with a bit more substance, and it felt like they went the opposite way instead. Right now, I could go with or without the final movie entirely... which is pretty fucking upsetting, even that piece of shit clone movie had me at least intrigued about the finish. Sooooo much fucking marketing too, we get it Disney. Can't they ever just make a a good fucking movie, without making sure they insert enough bullshit to make a billion off fucking merchandise, come the fuck on...



You do realize this is a Disney movie right, you have to be out of your mind to think that's a real possibility.


This post was edited by jadeoshbogosh on Dec 20 2017 01:31am

Lmao ya, it felt like she was the one teaching Luke at some point

Lolwut? I haven't watched any videos about tlj pal.



Kylo killed Snoke because he wanted the universe to move beyond the Sith and jedi and the simple concepts of good and evil, at least that's how he tries to rationalize it to himself. Really though he is just playing out the age old sith cycle without realizing it.

You are also trying to put words in my mouth again. I don't care if people are upset with snoke dying. Like I said I think it is lame as well. What I do have a problem with is you calling it bad storytelling just because it isn't the story you wanted to be told. What I have a problem with is people judging the movie/story based on what THEY want to happen instead of judging the story itself. The story overall was well done, the important characters all had significant character development that lined up with the plans the writers have for the characters.

It is hard to be objective with such a culturally significant and influential universe, but try judging the new trilogy based on what the writers are trying to do for the trilogy and not competing it to what you want to see.

This post was edited by Blah58 on Dec 20 2017 02:51am