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Jun 24 2016 07:24pm
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I really enjoyed the last episode, but I think it's ridiculous that it's the highest rated tv episode if all time now...from GOT alone, the red wedding was better on shock value alone.

I mean, let's be real. The entire episode was predictable sans Ramsay being a chew toy.

1. We knew there would be a big battle
2. We knew either Jon or ramsay would die...and that it would almost certainly be Ramsay.
3. Rickon's death was about guaranteed, and that it was botched so hard by forgetting that Zig zag never fails, was more annoying than shocking.
4. Rubber sword + poor editing...need I say more?
5. The 20 ft mound of bodied was laughable, as was jon's predictable decision making.
6. Sansa not revealing any info about writing to little finger was assanine.


Very true about 6.

Wasnt sure why she would toy with Jon like that... even if she was pissed about Jon not involving her more... sansa is not that twisted IMO
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Jun 24 2016 08:27pm
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6. That is because she knew Jon would fall into that trap. She tried reasoning with him and he shut her down. That is why she kept it a secret. Why let him use the troops just to have them fall into the trap too? Smart move by Sansa.


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Very true about 6.

Wasnt sure why she would toy with Jon like that... even if she was pissed about Jon not involving her more... sansa is not that twisted IMO


The question here is: How much of that decision was made by Sansa and how much by Baelish?

Baelish is not going to walk the KotV into the first wave, even if he knows he will win. This is not really 'their battle'. No, he's very shrewd. He's going to let the Northeners beat each other up, then swoop in easily at the end and claim victory with as few losses as possible to his own. Exactly how Tywin did it at the end of Robert's war and again at the Blackwater.

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Why do so many of you seem to miss the entire point of sansa not speaking up about littlefinger? They show made it very obvious she did want want his help or anything to do with him at all. She only wrote the letter after realizing she HAD to. She didnt tell them at first cause they would have made her bring him in and she wanted nothing to do with him. Once she realized she HAD to it was matter of not wanting to be bitched at for holding out on them. Its simple as hell and everyone seem to miss understand it.
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Why do so many of you seem to miss the entire point of sansa not speaking up about littlefinger? They show made it very obvious she did want want his help or anything to do with him at all. She only wrote the letter after realizing she HAD to. She didnt tell them at first cause they would have made her bring him in and she wanted nothing to do with him. Once she realized she HAD to it was matter of not wanting to be bitched at for holding out on them. Its simple as hell and everyone seem to miss understand it.


It doesn't matter why she did it, she's still an idiot for doing it. She'd risk everything because of her own pride? Fuck that, if you've got the means to win a crucial battle, holding back because of your own petty feelings is weak and it jeopardizes the lives of everyone around you. I understand why she did it, she's still a stupid twat for doing it though. Not to mention that John is another too fucking noble Stark. He'd probably tell Sansa she didn't have to bring him in if she'd simply conveyed why she didn't trust him. Something could have been worked out on how best to handle him following the hypothetical victory. John doesn't know much about the man, but Sansa is fully aware of what a snake he is, it seems like it'd be in everyone's best interest if you informed your commander of a deceitful conniving fuck with an army who also happens to be in close proximity of you....
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Jun 26 2016 08:30am
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It doesn't matter why she did it, she's still an idiot for doing it. She'd risk everything because of her own pride? Fuck that, if you've got the means to win a crucial battle, holding back because of your own petty feelings is weak and it jeopardizes the lives of everyone around you. I understand why she did it, she's still a stupid twat for doing it though. Not to mention that John is another too fucking noble Stark. He'd probably tell Sansa she didn't have to bring him in if she'd simply conveyed why she didn't trust him. Something could have been worked out on how best to handle him following the hypothetical victory. John doesn't know much about the man, but Sansa is fully aware of what a snake he is, it seems like it'd be in everyone's best interest if you informed your commander of a deceitful conniving fuck with an army who also happens to be in close proximity of you....


Yeah it would have been great. Then Jon could have marched them to death too when he charged out like an idiot.


How don't you people get this lol....
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Jun 26 2016 08:40am
The problem with the way she did it is that they could have mopped up John's army as well and proclaimed themselves the rulers of the north
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Jun 26 2016 08:41am
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The problem with the way she did it is that they could have mopped up John's army as well and proclaimed themselves the rulers of the north


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Why the fuck would they rofl?

That's like saying and they could have easily joined Ramsay's side. Would have made no fucking sense.
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Jun 26 2016 08:57am
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Why the fuck would they rofl?

That's like saying and they could have easily joined Ramsay's side. Would have made no fucking sense.

why not, Baelish is running things over there

i thought he was more of the the selfish take everything for himself type rather than charitable
why would he help ramsey he would gain nothing? this way he would control most of the north
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