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Jun 28 2014 07:49pm
Quote (izParagonzi @ Jun 28 2014 05:54pm)
Stop defending the truth with pidantic logic about the workplace and what society believes what we are to do.
She got paid off &/or manipulated to say those things for their behalf.

Now, how about answering this question.
"Do you believe the writers of the show are correct in leaving out the Harbinger of Doom from this type of TV series?"


pedantic logic?

it's common sense to those with interpersonal skills, and office politics that must be learned for those that dont

i dont really care what u think of her or the show, it's not my intention to defend them, but my point has been that it's a baseless assumption and she has many more viable reasons as to why she said those things than a conspiracy forced upon her by the writers

i have no opinion of leaving out harbinger of doom, in fact i dont even know wat that is

i never read the books, and didnt even know who lady stone was until reading this and a previous article about the same topic
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Jun 28 2014 10:41pm
Quote (wafflehunter @ Jun 29 2014 02:49pm)
pedantic logic?

it's common sense to those with interpersonal skills, and office politics that must be learned for those that dont

i dont really care what u think of her or the show, it's not my intention to defend them, but my point has been that it's a baseless assumption and she has many more viable reasons as to why she said those things than a conspiracy forced upon her by the writers

i have no opinion of leaving out harbinger of doom, in fact i dont even know wat that is

i never read the books, and didnt even know who lady stone was until reading this and a previous article about the same topic


You use the word 'learned' and yet do not realise it is suppose to be 'learnt', this is a common mistake from people that do not understand 'English' and how it is suppose to be used even in a society that thinks they know better than the language itself.

I can see from your statement you are hiding behind a wall of barriers to come to some form of conclusion for yourself... you still condone your words by using the round about fashion as a politician does during debates. Stop, read the simple question again and come up with your own answer without the round about response that is definately a society mechanism built within you and your own way of thinking as an individual.

"Do you believe the writers of the show are correct in leaving out the Harbinger of Doom from this type of TV series?"

If your next response can not answer the question directly, then I will have to assume that you do not have a real view on how a programme like this should be directed/produced for the common reader or that particular genre.
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Jun 29 2014 10:23am
Quote (izParagonzi @ Jun 28 2014 09:41pm)
You use the word 'learned' and yet do not realise it is suppose to be 'learnt', this is a common mistake from people that do not understand 'English' and how it is suppose to be used even in a society that thinks they know better than the language itself.

I can see from your statement you are hiding behind a wall of barriers to come to some form of conclusion for yourself... you still condone your words by using the round about fashion as a politician does during debates. Stop, read the simple question again and come up with your own answer without the round about response that is definately a society mechanism built within you and your own way of thinking as an individual.

"Do you believe the writers of the show are correct in leaving out the Harbinger of Doom from this type of TV series?"

If your next response can not answer the question directly, then I will have to assume that you do not have a real view on how a programme like this should be directed/produced for the common reader or that particular genre.


seems real to me
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/learned?s=t

i believe it can be used both ways, english has many variations (colors, colours for example)

also, don't lecture me on english when u cant spell "pedantic" and "definitely", even with spell check there to guide u

it's not a dodge, like i said, i didnt read the books, ur going to have to tell me wat harbinger of doom is

when i google this is wat i get

"Where Sansa was all lemon cakes and fairy tales in earlier episodes, she emerges from this episode clad in black, a harbinger of doom."
http://thirtyorsomething.com/2014/06/02/game-thrones-recap-mountain-viper/


so this website says that "harbinger of doom" is sansa, who was clearly in this season, u say it wasnt in it

so im going to assume ur talking about catelyn stark not making an appearance

well ok, i dont care?

again, i never read the books so why would it matter to me if theyre sticking to the books or not

if it's about content, well the finale imo was good enough for me, adding a new mysterious character would be nice, but the finale was loaded enough for me to want to watch the next season

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Jun 29 2014 03:42pm
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seems real to me
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/learned?s=t

i believe it can be used both ways, english has many variations (colors, colours for example)

also, don't lecture me on english when u cant spell "pedantic" and "definitely", even with spell check there to guide u

it's not a dodge, like i said, i didnt read the books, ur going to have to tell me wat harbinger of doom is

when i google this is wat i get

"Where Sansa was all lemon cakes and fairy tales in earlier episodes, she emerges from this episode clad in black, a harbinger of doom."
http://thirtyorsomething.com/2014/06/02/game-thrones-recap-mountain-viper/


so this website says that "harbinger of doom" is sansa, who was clearly in this season, u say it wasnt in it

so im going to assume ur talking about catelyn stark not making an appearance

well ok, i dont care?

again, i never read the books so why would it matter to me if theyre sticking to the books or not

if it's about content, well the finale imo was good enough for me, adding a new mysterious character would be nice, but the finale was loaded enough for me to want to watch the next season


:rofl: Pidantic is a spelling error, not an English error. Sheesh... pedantic much while making errors?
NOTE: if you had read the my post also, you would also realise that I have not read the books either.

1. I actually made an error... it is Harbinger of Vengeance.
2. You did not read link like you said, since you did not pick up on my error.

Here is the quote:

"The episode was the most shocking of the show and fans still haven't gotten over the loss of two of our favorite Starks, so naturally, when talk of Fairley reprising her role during the finale of Season 4 took hold, we got more than little excited. (For anyone who hasn't read the books, after Catelyn Stark is killed she's resurrected and becomes the zombified harbinger of vengeance known as Lady Stoneheart.)"

Once again, you did not answer the question.

"Do you believe the writers of the show are correct in leaving out the Harbinger of Vengeance from this type of TV series?"
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Remember this, neither you, nor I have read the books, I asked your opinion and got no answer to the question, stop dodging and changing topic.

This post was edited by izParagonzi on Jun 29 2014 03:42pm
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Jun 29 2014 05:01pm
Quote (izParagonzi @ Jun 29 2014 02:42pm)
:rofl: Pidantic is a spelling error, not an English error. Sheesh... pedantic much while making errors?
NOTE: if you had read the my post also, you would also realise that I have not read the books either.

1. I actually made an error... it is Harbinger of Vengeance.
2. You did not read link like you said, since you did not pick up on my error.

Here is the quote:

"The episode was the most shocking of the show and fans still haven't gotten over the loss of two of our favorite Starks, so naturally, when talk of Fairley reprising her role during the finale of Season 4 took hold, we got more than little excited. (For anyone who hasn't read the books, after Catelyn Stark is killed she's resurrected and becomes the zombified harbinger of vengeance known as Lady Stoneheart.)"

Once again, you did not answer the question.

"Do you believe the writers of the show are correct in leaving out the Harbinger of Vengeance from this type of TV series?"
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Remember this, neither you, nor I have read the books, I asked your opinion and got no answer to the question, stop dodging and changing topic.


all my answers have been valid, i really dont know wat ur looking for

my first answer, was of no opinion as i didnt know wat it was, why u dont take this as valid is beyond me, for example Israel vs Palestine, i have no opinion of it because i dont know anything about their war and their reasons, giving an actual answer to something u dont know anything about is ignorance

my second answer again is valid, my assumption, being correct about leaving catelyn stark out of the last episode was that it doesn't matter to me, i liked the episode and the season, adding her into the episode would have added mysterious factor to it because i dont know who she is but it would not have made me like the episode any more or less

my third answer, i'll make it very easy for u: yes

both of us has never read the books so we dont know the role catelyn stark plays and wat she adds to the plot, based on this we dont know the consequences of leaving her out and we dont know the direction the show will take, but seeing how awesome the show already is, i trust the writers and the direction they wish to take, if they completely branch away from the books so that all the book readers begin a protest and boycott the show, i still would support the writers IF i continue to find the show entertaining, i have no preconceptions, i have no expectations, so therefore the only way to disappoint me is to bore me

why ur so bent on me answering this question multiple times is beyond me, i think wat ur trying to do is lure me to say i hate the writer's decision

even if that was the case and i agreed with u, i would still call u out on ur baseless assumptions, which was the original point of this argument

u claimed the actress who played lady stark was bought out by writers and forced to say to the public that the show is great even without harbinger of vengeance,
with absolutely no evidence

i simply suggested to u that there are other reason (more likely reasons) as to why she would do this other than conspiracy

ps
http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/words/learnt-vs-learned
since i live in canada, we use combination of both british english and american english, i add a "u" to my spellings of colour, neighbour, etc, and prefer to use learned, spoiled

no error made, perhaps u should broaden ur knowledge of the english language before claiming that everyone that doesnt speak YOUR english doesnt know proper english

but again, typical of ur personality, jumping straight to conclusions out of pure emotion, lacking critical thinking and logic




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Jun 29 2014 06:21pm
Quote (wafflehunter @ Jun 30 2014 12:01pm)
all my answers have been valid, i really dont know wat ur looking for

my first answer, was of no opinion as i didnt know wat it was, why u dont take this as valid is beyond me, for example Israel vs Palestine, i have no opinion of it because i dont know anything about their war and their reasons, giving an actual answer to something u dont know anything about is ignorance

my second answer again is valid, my assumption, being correct about leaving catelyn stark out of the last episode was that it doesn't matter to me, i liked the episode and the season, adding her into the episode would have added mysterious factor to it because i dont know who she is but it would not have made me like the episode any more or less

my third answer, i'll make it very easy for u: yes

both of us has never read the books so we dont know the role catelyn stark plays and wat she adds to the plot, based on this we dont know the consequences of leaving her out and we dont know the direction the show will take, but seeing how awesome the show already is, i trust the writers and the direction they wish to take, if they completely branch away from the books so that all the book readers begin a protest and boycott the show, i still would support the writers IF i continue to find the show entertaining, i have no preconceptions, i have no expectations, so therefore the only way to disappoint me is to bore me

why ur so bent on me answering this question multiple times is beyond me, i think wat ur trying to do is lure me to say i hate the writer's decision

even if that was the case and i agreed with u, i would still call u out on ur baseless assumptions, which was the original point of this argument

u claimed the actress who played lady stark was bought out by writers and forced to say to the public that the show is great even without harbinger of vengeance,
with absolutely no evidence

i simply suggested to u that there are other reason (more likely reasons) as to why she would do this other than conspiracy

ps
http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/words/learnt-vs-learned
since i live in canada, we use combination of both british english and american english, i add a "u" to my spellings of colour, neighbour, etc, and prefer to use learned, spoiled

no error made, perhaps u should broaden ur knowledge of the english language before claiming that everyone that doesnt speak YOUR english doesnt know proper english

but again, typical of ur personality, jumping straight to conclusions out of pure emotion, lacking critical thinking and logic


Very long way of explaining something so simple. Your answers are "no opinion" / "Trust the writers and direction from them" / Yes [you believe they are correct]
Finally a simple answer in a round about way. Then the next question is simple also.

"Don't you believe that the direction could have included the Harbinger of Vengeance based on the genre of the programme AND still keep it as good as it is, or, even better?"

All assumptions are baseless, what is your point? I surmised a scenario that could or could not have happened, as you are doing now. My opinion is not baseless, as is the same for you.

:rofl: do you think I am an American?... learnt is the simplist and easiest way to use compared to learned, who cares whether it is American or not.

I was taught this a long time ago.
I learnt this a long time ago.
I learned this a long time ago.

Many people including myself dismiss documents using the word 'learned' in Resumes', Curriculum Vitaes' and including teaching/legal material written by well educated people.

When you state "Your English" to "Proper English" makes me laugh. Take some of your comments regarding me, and try to figure out whether I use English or American English first,
I think you will be surprised that your banter is baseless, and your link will identify why 'learnt' is the correct term for me... and to be honest, it should be yours as well. As for
broadening... learn to do the same for yourself. You are still stuck on me correcting you, and you won't let it go... by the way, I am correct, and so are you... go figure that out.
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Jun 29 2014 06:51pm
Quote (izParagonzi @ Jun 29 2014 02:54am)
Stop defending the truth with pidantic logic about the workplace and what society believes what we are to do.
She got paid off &/or manipulated to say those things for their behalf.

Now, how about answering this question.
"Do you believe the writers of the show are correct in leaving out the Harbinger of Doom from this type of TV series?"


Wafflehunter already explained it. Stop being cynical. There is no conspiracy theory she's just being professional.

Getting a job when there are not many is like seducing a woman: don't be needy and stay cool. And they come to you i.e. people approach you for a role or ask you to come back.

What do you expect? She saying she's so sad she has to find a new role/job?

Beggars can't be choosers.

Always stay cool no matter what B)


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Jun 29 2014 06:53pm
Quote (izParagonzi @ Jun 30 2014 02:21am)
Very long way of explaining something so simple. Your answers are "no opinion" / "Trust the writers and direction from them" / Yes [you believe they are correct]
Finally a simple answer in a round about way. Then the next question is simple also.

"Don't you believe that the direction could have included the Harbinger of Vengeance based on the genre of the programme AND still keep it as good as it is, or, even better?"

All assumptions are baseless, what is your point? I surmised a scenario that could or could not have happened, as you are doing now. My opinion is not baseless, as is the same for you.

:rofl: do you think I am an American?... learnt is the simplist and easiest way to use compared to learned, who cares whether it is American or not.

I was taught this a long time ago.
I learnt this a long time ago.
I learned this a long time ago.

Many people including myself dismiss documents using the word 'learned' in Resumes', Curriculum Vitaes' and including teaching/legal material written by well educated people.

When you state "Your English" to "Proper English" makes me laugh. Take some of your comments regarding me, and try to figure out whether I use English or American English first,
I think you will be surprised that your banter is baseless, and your link will identify why 'learnt' is the correct term for me... and to be honest, it should be yours as well. As for
broadening... learn to do the same for yourself. You are still stuck on me correcting you, and you won't let it go... by the way, I am correct, and so are you... go figure that out.


You just went full retard.

Never go full retard.
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Jun 29 2014 07:17pm
Quote (izParagonzi @ Jun 29 2014 05:21pm)
"Don't you believe that the direction could have included the Harbinger of Vengeance based on the genre of the programme AND still keep it as good as it is, or, even better?"


...jesus dude, why do u keep asking me this question, who cares about harbinger of vengeance, i already made it perfectly clear that i dont care about them following the books, if they can add this character that u love so much, and make it good , then good for them, if they don't add this character, and it's still good, my opinion still hasn't changed, just because u have a fetish for zombie catelyn, doesn't mean shit to me


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Many people including myself dismiss documents using the word 'learned' in Resumes', Curriculum Vitaes' and including teaching/legal material written by well educated people.



and wow...just wow, dismissing resumes and documents based solely on this, u must be the biggest prick in the world

incorrect spelling, sure, that's reasonable, as it shows lack of proof reading and perhaps sheds a light on their character as not being detail oriented

but a preference for using a word that can be used both ways, and that u urself has said to be correct can alter ur opinion of that person?

tell this about urself to everyone u meet and i can guarantee u at least 90% will call u a prick

im actually happy for those that u dismissed, as they just dodged having to work with someone like u




This post was edited by wafflehunter on Jun 29 2014 07:38pm
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:rofl: do you think I am an American?... learnt is the simplist and easiest way to use compared to learned, who cares whether it is American or not.

I was taught this a long time ago.
I learnt this a long time ago.
I learned this a long time ago.

Many people including myself dismiss documents using the word 'learned' in Resumes', Curriculum Vitaes' and including teaching/legal material written by well educated people.

When you state "Your English" to "Proper English" makes me laugh. Take some of your comments regarding me, and try to figure out whether I use English or American English first,
I think you will be surprised that your banter is baseless, and your link will identify why 'learnt' is the correct term for me... and to be honest, it should be yours as well. As for
broadening... learn to do the same for yourself. You are still stuck on me correcting you, and you won't let it go... by the way, I am correct, and so are you... go figure that out.


This is complete nonsense. Languages change and develop, especially across dialects and accents. How do you think we got to the English we have today? That there was some kind of board meeting among linguists in charge to switch over from Latin? Modern English grew out of the combination of French and German. Before that, it was mostly German (Old English isn't comprehensible by modern speakers).

So that's fine that your dialect and accent uses "learnt" and not "learned," but ours uses "learned." Maybe that offends you? Who gives a shit. You're not our intended audience outside of this particular discussion. "Learnt" just doesn't roll off the tongue in American English, so we use "learned." Thinking someone is less intelligent just because of regional differences in spelling is just silly.

At the very least, we're not kiwis who are annoying as fuck when they talk.


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