Quote (OutOfTown @ Dec 26 2017 01:29pm)

There's just no good villain in the new movies. And weak plots (especially TFA)

Clones and rots had good overall plots and amazing villains. The padme + anakin interactions is what mainly pulls these movies down.

Quote (Blah58 @ Jan 7 2018 04:37pm)

Kylo is easily one of the best villains to be in the Star wars movies.

He isn't flat like basically every other villain in star wars. He is conflicted and (at the end of tlj) feels like what he wants is the best thing for the Galaxy. He isn't just being evil for the sake of being evil, and he is constantly conflicted about the bad shit he does. Plus we actually get to see his power growth.

Dooku and Grevious were both shit, and the Emperor had zero character development. Essentially we were basically just told he is the strongest sith ever and people are ok believing that without any evidence?

In rots he kills LITERALLY the 3 best swordsmen in the entire Jedi order without even trying and defeats Yoda in a force battle (the guy who is highly regarded as the strongest force user alive at the moment) yet no one says shit about how that came out of fucking no where?

Quote (fuzzy159 @ Jan 8 2018 03:24pm)

Wat.

I can't tell if this is a troll or not lol.

Quote (FroggyG @ Jan 8 2018 04:07pm)

I don't think character development is that important for a villain
Like Joker in Dark Knight. No development he's just a great personality and that's all it takes.

Side note, a lot of good stories have the villain be better than the hero and the hero has to change to defeat the villain set in his ways





Empty posts like this are useless. Try not to make them anymore.

Quote (FroggyG @ Jan 8 2018 07:07pm)

I don't think character development is that important for a villain
Like Joker in Dark Knight. No development he's just a great personality and that's all it takes.

Side note, a lot of good stories have the villain be better than the hero and the hero has to change to defeat the villain set in his ways





Empty posts like this are useless. Try not to make them anymore.

Quote (fuzzy159 @ Jan 10 2018 05:09pm)

Looking through your post history makes me think you should take your own advice.

Just because you can think of one character that didn't have a very in depth development doesn't mean it doesn't enhance the character and it isn't important. That's like saying dialogue isn't important because there were successful silent films in the past.

Quote (FroggyG @ Jan 10 2018 07:19pm)

Idk I open up a list of villains from various movies..

Bane, Anton Chigurh (No Country for Old Men), Joker, Palpatine, Darth Vader, Freddy Krueger. John Doe (Se7en), Ra's al Ghul, Megatron

Most of these characters don't have development of much depth. Nothing compared to their hero counterparts at least.


Also I'm not saying character development is inherently bad or anything. I'm saying that it is not necessary.

Quote (ZiggyStardust @ Jan 11 2018 02:26pm)

Yeah but all those villains kinda suck : |

Quote (FroggyG @ Jan 10 2018 04:19pm)

Idk I open up a list of villains from various movies..

Bane, Anton Chigurh (No Country for Old Men), Joker, Palpatine, Darth Vader, Freddy Krueger. John Doe (Se7en), Ra's al Ghul, Megatron

Most of these characters don't have development of much depth. Nothing compared to their hero counterparts at least.


Also I'm not saying character development is inherently bad or anything. I'm saying that it is not necessary.

Quote (Blah58 @ Jan 11 2018 02:51pm)

All of those villans do have character development though. Just not in the form of an arc. We still see them throughout the movies doing stuff that lets us know how strong/evil/trained/etc they are.