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Aug 23 2013 07:28pm
Shawshank redemption

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Black Swan

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Aug 24 2013 12:53am
Vouch Black Swan and Inception.

Why the hate towards The Shawshank Redemption?
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Aug 24 2013 01:39am
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Are you kidding? Outstanding movie.

MMA had hardly anything to do with the movie.. It was about family, brothers, alcoholism etc etc. Nick Nolte should have won the Oscar for his role.


That movie was basically Rocky but with MMA and not as good. Decent watch, but not AMAZING.
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Aug 24 2013 01:55am
Quote (Kamahl16 @ Aug 24 2013 08:53am)

Why the hate towards The Shawshank Redemption?


Syrupy pastiche, calculated crowd pleaser. It's not hate but it's imdb #1 which just doesn't resonate with me. Seen it four times the past ten years: Iirc something like 9/10, 5/10, 3/10, 3.7/10
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Why the hate towards The Shawshank Redemption?


Because it was full-retard.

An American prison with only one black guy in it?

All of the principle prisoner characters are portrayed as "good guys" who just made some mistakes.

The film wants you to feel sorry for Brooks, who did something(s) so shitty he was in prison half a century.

The film ridiculously portrays convicts as caring, appreciative, and loyal.

In short, the movie was so absurdly over-the-top with fantasy bullshit.

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Because it was full-retard.

An American prison with only one black guy in it?

All of the principle prisoner characters are portrayed as  "good guys" who just made some mistakes.

The film wants you to feel sorry for Brooks,  who did something(s) so shitty he was in prison half a century.

The film ridiculously portrays convicts as caring, appreciative, and loyal.

In short,  the movie was so absurdly over-the-top with fantasy bullshit.


It has redemption in the title, Brooks was in prison for as long as he was, it's very possible he was absolutely nothing like the person who originally committed the crime. It makes a good point about prison's role, is it to punish the individuals inside (as they clearly did in the film) or to rehabilitate them, as Andy attempted to do via his efforts to bring a library, teach the kid with the sideburns, etc. There's an underlying sense of anti-authority to it which I'll admit I am biased in favor even if it can be juvenile at times (my view, not necessarily the film).

As for the film portraying them as "caring, appreciative, and loyal", the film shows that after the main character somehow earned their respect. They are still human beings and would probably form friendships, cliques, have values, etc., even if they are in a prison.

I think the film is incredible.

EDIT -- Regarding the bold, most blacks were merely executed before they made it to Shawshank.


Quote (BebebBurns @ Aug 24 2013 07:55am)
Syrupy pastiche, calculated crowd pleaser. It's not hate but it's imdb #1 which just doesn't resonate with me. Seen it four times the past ten years: Iirc something like 9/10, 5/10, 3/10, 3.7/10


Had to Google the word "pastiche", never seen it before. I'll say this, I don't know if I'd say it is a stunning piece of art that offers something new or innovative but I will say it is inspiring. Had multiple likable characters, had excellent use of music, incredible narration, was very quotable and iconic, etc.

I can throw this bitch on any time and watch it all the way through and enjoy almost every part of it.


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It has redemption in the title, Brooks was in prison for as long as he was, it's very possible he was absolutely nothing like the person who originally committed the crime. It makes a good point about prison's role, is it to punish the individuals inside (as they clearly did in the film) or to rehabilitate them, as Andy attempted to do via his efforts to bring a library, teach the kid with the sideburns, etc. There's an underlying sense of anti-authority to it which I'll admit I am biased in favor even if it can be juvenile at times (my view, not necessarily the film).

As for the film portraying them as "caring, appreciative, and loyal", the film shows that after the main character somehow earned their respect. They are still human beings and would probably form friendships, cliques, have values, etc., even if they are in a prison.

I think the film is incredible.

EDIT -- Regarding the bold, most blacks were merely executed before they made it to Shawshank.


There are no shortage of prison documentaries on TV. MSNBC airs them weekly. Check a few out to see what convicts are like in the real world. It isn't like the syrup-fest fantasy caricature of Shawshank Redemption.

More importantly and even worse is that the movie is predictable and utterly sophomoric.

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Aug 24 2013 03:37pm
Quote (The_Doves @ Aug 20 2013 05:15am)
Warrior. That movie was awesome...

I hate these threads so much....

Everyone has a different opinion on what is "overrated". There is literally ZERO point in this.


Doves, baby.. I know you're right on this one, but you're wasting your time. I think I might be the biggest advocate for the death of "overrated" and "underrated." By saying something is overrated, you're underrating something other people love. It's like the most annoying way imaginable to pontificate an opinion. Not only does it undermine others opinions, it gives people who use such ratings the impression their opinion somehow matters.

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what do you guys think are some of the most overrated movies of all time?


after all the buzz around kick ass 2, I will be the first person to step up and say that the first kick ass was mediocre at best

also think fight club is overrated (don't get me wrong - I love the movie and think it was extremely well done, but the cult following and nut hugging it has is exhausting to think about)
boondock saints is also pretty overrated imo, decent film with some cool scenes but nothing more
donnie darko also seems to be the favorite film of everybody who likes to pretend they're deep thinkers or anybody under the age of 16 who thinks he/she is a misunderstood youth







what about you guys?


Quite down, child. You couldn't possibly have enough insight, or whit, to change a single mind. Do us all a favor and go far away. The movies you've chosen to chastise are simple flicks, and were mostly devised as mindless vehicles for entertainment. It's like you think the criterion collection is banging on the door of Troy Duffy.


Quote (BebebBurns @ Aug 24 2013 07:55am)
Syrupy pastiche, calculated crowd pleaser. It's not hate but it's imdb #1 which just doesn't resonate with me. Seen it four times the past ten years: Iirc something like 9/10, 5/10, 3/10, 3.7/10


I feel like most movies will at least try to appease the audience one way or another. I agree that Shawshank's imdb rating seems off, and not because it's terrible, just that it's not the best. It's impossible to say any movie is the best... I think any movie with the distinction of "imdb #1" will ultimately fall short with many many critics.
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Quote (ArcticShadow @ Aug 23 2013 09:36pm)
Scarface


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