Negan states time and time again that people are resources, he's not bent on exterminating communities, this is all happening because of Rick. What happened at the dump was contrary to Negan's desires and a result, once again, of the instability Rick has created that is causing Negan to lose control over his own commanders.

Let's look at it in another way, to which group would you rather be a prisoner to in this situation, Rick's or Negan's? I think it's pretty obvious given what we've seen of how Negan treats his captured vs how Maggie has been with hers, if it weren't for Jesus you'd already be dead if Rick's group got their mitts on you. No matter what, and as long as your name isn't Rick, you're going to have value to the saviors, you'll be worth bending over backwards for, and whether that effort comes in the form of breaking (Daryl) or beneficence (Eugene), either is better than being herded like cattle and periodically executed whenever the head bitch happens to feel cranky.

This post was edited by DCSS on Mar 16 2018 12:33am

-'happens because of rick' no it happens because negan fucked up with delegating tasks. It's irrelevant who was responsible, it was also not Rick that fully antagonized the governor, yet you insist it's all Rick that needed to take the blame. The instability? Oppressing people is inherently unstable if you don't have some decisive and huge advantage and face it, negan doesn't. You can blame negan for wanting to have too many slaves, wanting too much of the good life and not sharing enough with those he leans on.

-'Let's look at it in another way, to which group would you rather be a prisoner to in this situation, Rick's or Negan's?' - That's the thing, you'd only be prisoner if you, or those you're with, fuck with Rick and his people. You'd be a prisoner of negan if you desire to be free instead of subjugated by the 'saviors'. So even if your question wasn't a clear cut answer to be Rick (he absorbed the governor's people for example), your question skips over the fact that i wouldn't even become his prisoner as a decent person.

Or if you were a member of the saviors... unless you're asserting that none of them are decent people because they didn't just immediately defect when Ricks group at the start of the war leaving everyone/everything they know to tenuously ally with the enemy and not even knowing if they would be accepted, win, or anything really, or they aren't decent because they didn't decide from the start that living out in the wild was better than being in a community where there's food & safety... I'm sure you would have done one of those things, right? You're a decent person after all.

This post was edited by DCSS on Mar 16 2018 09:05am

yeah, if you stick around for the torture, subjugation, random inprisonment and killing, then you're letting evil win by doing nothing. You're not the ones in controll of the group, but you enable them, just like the majority of Germans weren't also nazi, they stood by and let it happen.

All negan does is use dick and ball references. If someone out together a video of him speaking every second or third sentence would be a dick reference

Well damn, didn't expect Jadis there at the end.

Wonder who the people in the van are/what their plans are.

Georgie is a possible television version of Pamela Milton, though it seems a bit early to introduce them so soon given that is the current arc in the comics.
Either she gave a fake name or she's the shows spin on that character, like what they did with Deanna for Alexandria. Or perhaps she's someone completely different.

The "key to the future" kind of makes Eugene obsolete and makes me think he won't be redeeming himself or ends up dead.

http://walkingdead.wikia.com/wiki/Pamela_Milton_(Comic_Series) - for those that want to know who she is.

The house of horrors romp with rick and negan was entertaining, could've spent more time on that cat and mouse game though. Jadis showing up was unexpected.

Looking forward to Negan settling up with Simon though.

Overall was a much needed improvement over the last episodes.

This post was edited by Arsenic_Touch on Mar 18 2018 11:34pm

Makes me want to watch it reading this. Hope it's good

Interesting, need to catch up on the comics, a few months behind.

Think they're just jumping ahead or what? That would be blasphemy to skip the Whisperer arc, arguably the best of the entire series.

They said they're doing the whisperers, they should be next up. Though without carl, they're going to have to do some arc swapping.
Given that morgan is going to be in fear, they're going to do some kind of time skip, but i don't know to what extent.

This post was edited by Arsenic_Touch on Mar 19 2018 12:35pm