Yeah, because 4 is the best of the series.

No one

Rewatched clones and rots.

Pretty convinced on R1 then Rots for best 2.

TFA maybe #3 but overall there is such a huge drop after the #2

I rewatched TLJ and liked it more the 2nd time around.

Rots suffers from the same things as attack of the clones - bad acting and a bad script.

I'm gonna go R1, TLJ, TFA, then Rots

There's just no good villain in the new movies. And weak plots (especially TFA)

Clones and rots had good overall plots and amazing villains. The padme + anakin interactions is what mainly pulls these movies down.

This post was edited by OutOfTown on Dec 26 2017 11:30am

Grevious and Dooku weren't good villains really. Palpatine wasn't your average villain either - he was acting behind the scenes until the end of Rots.

I like how Kylo is conflicted and much more layered than villains in the prequels - if that means he's not quite as strong or menacing, then fine.

But I do acknowledge the point about the villains in the new sequels. It really bothered me at the time when Rey overpowered Kylo in TFA.

I liked palpatine a lot. Basically won by scheming. And he was still one of the best duelists too.

But yeah there are no menacing villains now. Just whiny kylo.

The overall plots though?
"OMG they built a second death star!" ... Really?
It hurt so much when that was the plot

This post was edited by OutOfTown on Dec 26 2017 11:41am

Revenge of the sith > rogue one > phantom menace

Obviously phantom menace because jar jar got introduced to us in it

Kylo is easily one of the best villains to be in the Star wars movies.

He isn't flat like basically every other villain in star wars. He is conflicted and (at the end of tlj) feels like what he wants is the best thing for the Galaxy. He isn't just being evil for the sake of being evil, and he is constantly conflicted about the bad shit he does. Plus we actually get to see his power growth.

Dooku and Grevious were both shit, and the Emperor had zero character development. Essentially we were basically just told he is the strongest sith ever and people are ok believing that without any evidence?

In rots he kills LITERALLY the 3 best swordsmen in the entire Jedi order without even trying and defeats Yoda in a force battle (the guy who is highly regarded as the strongest force user alive at the moment) yet no one says shit about how that came out of fucking no where?

This post was edited by Blah58 on Jan 7 2018 04:59pm