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Jun 16 2015 11:30am
Quote (fuzzy159 @ Jun 16 2015 11:10am)
I'm throwing ideas out. Maybe instead of being a douche bag and calling people dumb you should use your head and realize that.

For all we know they could stretch the next books content over 2-3 seasons.

Before you get your narrow minded patriot colored panties twisted just remember these are just ideas being thrown at a wall.


I get how you could think that given Bran's absense but from a narrative standpoint its impossible. Here's why:

-Melisandre and Davos are both at the wall, you would need to hold back their plots as well for an entire season. (not impossible but makes it harder)

-the general outcry at a cliffhanger left unexplained (this imo would be too great an obstacle)

-the focus on the show has shifted majorly up north due to the coming white walkers, you would need to hold back that entire plot in order to hold back jons plot

-the show writers have already budgeted and signed contracts for 7 seasons, while the could of course try to push to 8 i dont believe they want to, and it would still be a stretch to hold off jons storyline until book 6 comes out

-the showrunners have already spoiled quite a few storylines, meaning that holding back jons would be biased to a single storyline when they have already spoiled others (like Tyrion who hasnt reached Dany by the end of book 5)



all of this could of course be ignored by D&D and they could do it anyways, but the story would suffer so much that i doubt HBO would let them.
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Jun 16 2015 11:37am
Quote (fuzzy159 @ Jun 16 2015 10:10am)
I'm throwing ideas out. Maybe instead of being a douche bag and calling people dumb you should use your head and realize that.

For all we know they could stretch the next books content over 2-3 seasons.

Before you get your narrow minded patriot colored panties twisted just remember these are just ideas being thrown at a wall.


Bad ideas are still bad ideas, I'm going to call them what they are. You're the one who's panties appear to be twisted up. It's idiotic to think that a TV show would cut out the without a doubt most important character for an indeterminable amount of time so the author can finish his book. Seriously, it could easily be another 2-3 years before GRRM is done. Have you read the books? Do you have any kind of fucking clue how important John Snow is? It would be idiotic for them to cut him out for an extended period of time.

I like how being logical makes you narrow-minded, I'll just add that on to the list of stupid shit you've said in this thread.

Quote (kragujevac @ Jun 16 2015 10:46am)
no one wants your shitty ideas


Vouch. Zero plausibility, completely pointless and just idiotic all together. Ideas don't get much worse than that.


This post was edited by jadeoshbogosh on Jun 16 2015 11:49am
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Jun 16 2015 11:46am
Quote (fuzzy159 @ Jun 16 2015 05:10pm)
I'm throwing ideas out. Maybe instead of being a douche bag and calling people dumb you should use your head and realize that.

For all we know they could stretch the next books content over 2-3 seasons.

Before you get your narrow minded patriot colored panties twisted just remember these are just ideas being thrown at a wall.


no one wants your shitty ideas
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Jun 16 2015 11:51am
Actually they're a couple of storylines left out of the book that haven't been shown in the series, for example what happened on the iron islands
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Jun 16 2015 11:56am
Quote (thesnipa @ 16 Jun 2015 11:12)
Well, unconfirmed as far as actually warging something IIRC.

However he is recognized as a warg by the freefolk when he joins their ranks, and the title sticks with him as an insult from Thorne and company when he returns to the wall.

However he does meet powerful wargs but never shows signs of the ability himself even in their presence.

However Jon does seem to be able to control Ghost in a manner that Bran can control his wolf even when not directly warging him, conversely Sansa, Arya, and Rickon had very loyal but unruly wolves, suggesting less warging power IMO. Robb likely was a warg as greywind was nearly 100% in his control and used as a weapon on the battlefield.


One powerful warg mentioned that Jon was the most powerful he's ever felt but never had the training or used it much. So I'm guessing, since they never had the training, they only do subconscious things like bond and control their dire wolves.

It's also shown a warg cam hijack another human being to survive and leave his old body behind, which is what I assume Jon might have done.

Also, the direction did an interview on vanity Fair, he said Jon is 100% dead, but won't comment on whether the red woman resurrects him
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Jun 16 2015 11:59am
Quote (StephanePare @ 16 Jun 2015 18:56)
One powerful warg mentioned that Jon was the most powerful he's ever felt but never had the training or used it much. So I'm guessing, since they never had the training, they only do subconscious things like bond and control their dire wolves.

It's also shown a warg cam hijack another human being to survive and leave his old body behind, which is what I assume Jon might have done.

Also, the direction did an interview on vanity Fair, he said Jon is 100% dead, but won't comment on whether the red woman resurrects him


if you take the words you said yourself, they said that the ACTUAL John Snow is done.... but what if hes gonna take anothers Body and use it the entire season !=)
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Jun 16 2015 12:06pm
Quote (napsterz0r @ Jun 16 2015 10:59am)
if you take the words you said yourself, they said that the ACTUAL John Snow is done.... but what if hes gonna take anothers Body and use it the entire season !=)


Wargs into Benjen :D
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Jun 16 2015 12:24pm
Quote (napsterz0r @ 16 Jun 2015 13:59)
if you take the words you said yourself, they said that the ACTUAL John Snow is done.... but what if hes gonna take anothers Body and use it the entire season !=)


Yes, that's what I'm thinking as well, I hate to wait a year to see if I'm right :(
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Jun 16 2015 12:40pm
Quote (jadeoshbogosh @ Jun 16 2015 01:37pm)
Bad ideas are still bad ideas, I'm going to call them what they are. You're the one who's panties appear to be twisted up. It's idiotic to think that a TV show would cut out the without a doubt most important character for an indeterminable amount of time so the author can finish his book. Seriously, it could easily be another 2-3 years before GRRM is done. Have you read the books? Do you have any kind of fucking clue how important John Snow is? It would be idiotic for them to cut him out for an extended period of time.

I like how being logical makes you narrow-minded, I'll just add that on to the list of stupid shit you've said in this thread.



Vouch. Zero plausibility, completely pointless and just idiotic all together. Ideas don't get much worse than that.



You do know it is already confirmed that the actor playing Jon Snow isn't in the next season...so yeah logical thinking rofl.

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Jun 16 2015 12:43pm
Quote (fuzzy159 @ Jun 16 2015 06:40pm)
You do know it is already confirmed that the actor playing Jon Snow isn't in the next season...so yeah logical thinking rofl.


You do realize that no matter what the plan is for jon snow they HAVE to say he wont be back. They left a cliff hanger ending what else do you expect them to say? Why even bother with that ending if you are just going to be like yea man he will back next season. We have confirmation of nothing just people saying what they are obligated to say under contract.
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