A mere short anti PC statement rattled you into posting a "single emoji" post

Feel free to create a POLL to see who agrees with him on PC culture being cancer - as opposed to your triggered "solo emoji reply" posting pro-PC stance. The results will give your pompous mug a reality check.

You call the guy as incapable to have a conversation - AFTER posting a triggered "single emoji" post.

You called the guy's post as one not making any sense - AFTER posting a triggered "single emoji" post which actually did not make sense to the point that its interpretation triggered you into confirming you thought it was misunderstood.

You brain labelled a critique of virtue signalling done by out-of-touch hypocritical elitists ........... as an attack on liberalism. /LOL


--Have to deal with the facts sooner or later. You're a deranged mental midget - through and through.

This post was edited by HeLiCaL on Sep 3 2019 04:03am

The irony of you being the most triggered person on the forum is just too fucking funny. Just keep twisting the argument to suit your narrative, that's working out real well for you.



As I said before, there's not a male or female character in the entire movie that fits that criteria.... The closest we could probably get is Poe/Rey, but both of them are fucking retarded too. Yes, it was explained that they were working with the last order, or that they were profiting off human misery in some way or another. You started eye rolling the second you saw rich people, that you didn't even bother trying lol. Which again just shows your own bias more than anything else and this should not be a hot topic issue. If you're actively profiting off the suffering of others, you're a piece of shit, this really isn't something that should make so many people so upset. Apparently you need some bigger reason for why the movie was bad, but the first one had alllllllll the exact same shit in it, but again, your ilk completely overlooked it because they made it nostalgic enough to pass as an okay movie, when it was laughably hollow from the get go. There's also thousands of people on YouTube talking about how the planet is flat, you really want to base all your arguments off whether or not people on YouTube agree with you? Complaining about shit this thin, is like every single far left nutter that complains about not enough minorities or homosexuals or transgender people in movies. It's the same fucking shit, which is why I find the whole fucking thing so comical. You've both become as bad as one another and neither of you can understand that movies are entertainment and representation doesn't fucking matter, all that matters is whether or not the movie is actually good. If this hadn't been a pile of shit, you and the 50 other angry youtubbers would have never even noticed these things, but here we are, nitpicking about shit that doesn't matter because you need some reason other than the movie itself, to justify why it was trash after you enjoyed the first one so much. I get it, I do, but it's insane.

This post was edited by jadeoshbogosh on Sep 3 2019 11:17am

… the representation u speak of was not organic or believable even for a space movie. It was forced and inserted in there because it was part of an agenda. Who ultimately knows how big of an agenda this was to be in the movie but judging by the repeated tones and themes, it would seem a pretty high priority. And considering this, who knows what creative decisions were added/removed and ultimately how the story was to be told. The fact that u cant even seem to comprehend this or acknowledge that it could possibly have directly caused the movie to be complete trash is bewildering.

You understand that it's equally as bewildering that you're incapable of seeing any other viewpoint than the one you're stuck on, right? This is a two-way street. I've never claimed that politics don't play a major role in cinema, of course they do, it's artistic interpretation and it's foolish to think a director's ideologies wouldn't be imprinted on their work. That being said, all the so-called liberal propaganda in this particular film, is just fucking reaching. You asked for one male character who didn't fit your description, I provided the closest possible one in Poe, who was neither a villain nor a coward, but still an idiot, while also pointing out that not a single female character fits the description either. You keep bringing up a "repeated" tone, when there isn't one and if there is, it was the same tone in the first film, which again, was somehow not a big deal since the film was packed with enough crowed pleasing nostalgia to blind you to your own bias.... The one other gripe you keep bringing up is just nonsense. If you honestly can't see the difference between slavers, arms dealers, drug runners and conflict capitalist from your run-of-the-mill wealthy entrepreneur, I sure as fuck can't help you. You realize it's the rich guy who's the bad person in like every fucking movie right? You know why that is? Because it makes fucking sense lol.

Clearly we're at an impasse on this one. You've provided your opinions, I've provided my examples and we're not getting anywhere. As I said to begin this back and forth, it was a bad movie for dozens of reasons and a few male villains and rich people being evil doesn't even begin to register as a reason for why this cluster fuck was what it was.

Poe? u mean the guy who tried to question his female leader and overtake her command only to be shutdown and ultimately made to look like an idiot in the film because of it? Doesn't that fall directly under dumb, uninformed, ignorant male?... Bro there is literally not one male character in the film. meanwhile every female is pretty much a leader/hero. Which I mean its fine I could care less but its literally every male is this, every female is this. lol ok w/e...

The film is littered with propaganda … its not that hard to read between the lines... everything from gender politics, social politics, race politics... best shot in the film was the shot of the cops/security guards on "casino planet". Literally just a random pan out of a group of them. Every single one of these "Cops" was a young white male. lol. And its not like these characters are suppose to be shown in a good way... no its like these are the bad guys.. lol its just a joke of a star wars film considering all the crap forced in there.

I mean didn't other star wars films deal with more basic concepts? like good and evil and the struggle between them? Things that almost every single human can relate to. Instead its like they are trying to explain that women can be strong and males are well idk... and that rich people are evil and white males/ cops are bad...don't abuse animals... its just like wtf is this shit? I just wanted to see Star wars bro and I get this garbage? Its just garbage that panders to a select group of people or way of thinking.. its just not a movie for people to be entertained. Its propaganda trash.

Again, your own bias is forcing you to see shit in the most close-minded way imaginable. Poe reacts to a situation based on the information he has available to him. The female commander refuses to share information with one of the top fighter pilots in the Rebellion, who's well known for rash decisions, which shows a painful lack of leadership and stupidity, which I already addressed previously.... but you literally ignore every counter point and just keep regurgitating the same shit with no actual examples other than "The bad guys were white, what an outrage!!!!". Outside her we have the minority woman, which is propaganda because not white ofc, who's by your own definition as dumb and useless as Poe right? Then we've got Rey, someone who acts like a whiny fucking child through the entire movie. So again, explain why you're stuck on this narrative of this film featuring only strong independent whomans who don't need no man, when that's not even fucking remotely true? EVERYONE IN THE MOVIE SUCKED. Like fuck man, we've been over this soooooo many times and it's just odd that you're trying to pretend like the women in this movie were any better than the men. Oh, but a GUY betrayed them, that's more anti-male propaganda, just like in Empire Strikes Back and we've already covered this, that was anti-black and anti-male propaganda at the same time, crazy shit.

I know you won't ever do this, but just try and use your own logic the other way around. Look through any movies with strong male leads and only dumb, weak, or annoying females. Now, should everyone be outraged about every single movie that fits this criteria? No, they shouldn't, because that would be fucking dumb. Just like it'd be dumb to think SW was pushing some anti-male agenda because the lead was a woman.....

We're never going to see eye to eye on this, that's obvious, but just try and look at it line by line and think about whether or not this seems batshit crazy, because it seems pretty fucking batshit crazy to me.

Any time a white guy is a bad guy in a movie, it's anti-white propaganda.
Any time a woman is a lead in a movie and there's not an equally strong male character, it's anti-male propaganda.
Any time a rich guy is a bad person in a movie (even a warlord using child slaves to rape other children) it's now anti-rich propaganda (only if white though? I'm not 100% on everything that's propaganda to you)

This post was edited by jadeoshbogosh on Sep 4 2019 06:17am

I agree with your points in concept, generally speaking. But let's take a look at TLJ specifically. And I want to start with basic questions just so we don't lose track of the conversation.

Do you agree that Admiral Holdo's appearance is consistent with the 2018 image of the SJW feminist stereotype? At first glance, Americans who see her might think the she could have graduated with a liberal arts college with a degree in feminine dance therapy. That way that she presents herself aligns with that recognizable stereotype from today.

Very simply question: agree/disagree

Sure, based purely on stereotypes, this is accurate. Again though, she acts like a moron whenever she's on screen, so it should just make anyone hating on liberals happy.

ok good, so moving on:

When Poe first mutinies, the audience's POV on the situation is supposed to be: Man good, SJW woman bad. We are supposed to believe that Admiral Holdo is in the wrong.

But then later (mainly triggered by Leia waking up) the audience gets bait and switched a little bit. The narrative was supposed to be "oh he should have listened to the woman all along". Important disclaimer, I actually believe that Poe was in the right all along to mutiny and that Holdo was doing a poor job of leadership. But putting my personal viewpoint aside, and just looking at the way it was presented by the movie, would you agree with this assessment?

Why would that be what the narrative is "supposed to be"? Sure, that's one way of seeing it, but surely they could have pushed a "listen to the woman" message without also making her look like a shit leader with zero communication skills, wouldn't you agree? The film is littered with poorly written characters and laughable plot lines, but it's this same conversation about leftist propaganda whenever a woman is in a lead role for Disney now and it's always incredibly thin.


Incoming totally pointless unfounded half-joking side rant that can be completely ignored if you'd like to stay on topic.

What's really interesting if you think about it, is how Disney has consistently made manipulating the masses look easy. Throughout the years, Disney, once of the evilest corporations in the world, has had their PR stances, but their real objectives and ideals are usually pretty easy to suss out, which most recently we saw in the form of a puppet President pushing through a merger that clearly shouldn't have been allowed. Now for the second time in a row, a woman is in a lead roll for a Disney film and there's an absolute fucking shit storm of hate being heaped upon SJWs and the left because of pro liberal propaganda. To me it seems obvious that we're supposed to dislike and distrust Holdo and side with Poe, which clearly worked based on the responses from fucking everyone that saw the movie, but here we are anyway.