I kinda agree. It was Skylar's fault for pulling the knife out. But Walt didn't know the whole story behind why Skylar told Walt Jr. (Hank's phone call to Marie and then what Marie told Skylar). Skylar couldn't have known she was "crossing him" because she had legit reasons to believe he was already locked up.

This post was edited by kayeto on Sep 15 2013 08:33pm

That was the best episode of the series so far imo. Incredible.

Walt is still the man though, he's gone full Heisenberg.

Pretty sure the phone call was to keep Skylar from being incriminated

Oh that was OP's point

This post was edited by lopelurag on Sep 15 2013 08:38pm

Wait what? Dude... that's not it at all. He was saving her by giving her plausible deniability so she doesn't get locked up by his shit. He knew the cops were recording that call. You don't think I would give him credit for calling her a bitch and threatening her, do you?

This post was edited by AnomanderRake on Sep 15 2013 08:39pm

In the phone call he said that she had been telling him what he was doing was illegal. But even if we toss that off as a minor thing, then what was the point of Walter taking the baby? Was he doing something other than teaching her a lesson? Are you saying that all that was a lie too, and Walter didn't think Skylar did anything wrong by telling Walt Jr?

This post was edited by kayeto on Sep 15 2013 08:54pm

So even if you don't think that the call was Walter trying to save her by getting her off the hook with the law (which it very clearly was), you still give him kudos for basically tearing her apart and telling her to keep her bitch mouth shut?

Walter took the baby as a pure impulse because he couldn't believe he just lost his family, and wanted to salvage what part of it he could. He clearly realized it was a shitty move afterwards, and gave it to the fire department so they could get it back to her.

What I'm trying to get at is: did the phone call serve one purpose or two?


I didn't say that he wasn't trying to make her look less guilty. I said we could toss that one 'illegal' comment off as a minor thing. My question was if there was more to the phone call than just that. Was he actually upset that Skylar told Walt Jr.? Was he really trying to send a message by taking the baby?



If that's how you frame the move (which may be correct) then that makes me like Walter less. I'm used to him making seemingly crazy moves that are part of a grand orchestrated plan. If a second purpose of the phone call, in addition to making her appear less guilty, was ALSO to send a message to Skylar (if you cross me I will take your daughter) then that would make me like him more.

It would have parallels with the Brock scenario, but more dramatic since it's his daughter. Here, he takes his own daughter (he feels confident she will come to no harm, but lets Skylar believe otherwise). In that case, he poisoned Brock, but felt confident Brock wouldn't die. It served only to send a message to Jesse (although the message appeared to have been sent from Gus).

This post was edited by kayeto on Sep 15 2013 09:20pm

Walter is a brilliant schemer, but he does act on impulse a lot. Like, when Hank thought Gale was Heisenberg and the case was down, Walt (full of alcohol and pride) basically tells Hank he thinks Heisenberg is still out there... there's no benefit to that. Plus all those times he berates Jesse to get him fired up, he's clearly pissed off and lost his composure in those moments. Also shooting Mike was completely impulsive and he regretted it immediately. So I definitely don't put it past him to have emotional outbursts and do things he regrets.

I also happen to think that Walt wasn't as careful with Brock's dosage as he led Jesse to believe. He bullshits Jesse all the time to sway him, like when he told him their barrel of methylaime was "going bad" so they could go into the desert and cook.

he covered that bitches ass after she cut him with a knife seriously.....

Just finished the last episode, kind of in shock still.