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Mar 30 2015 06:53pm
Quote (izParagonzi @ 30 Mar 2015 20:31)
:rofl: re watching season 1... Shane was a total dick from the start [EP1], he wanted Ricks wife, well, that is my impression based on his facial expression when asking Rick about his wife. And that is why he ended up wanting to kill Rick, jealousy and how everyone respected Ricks decisions more and more... he wasn't nuts, just pathetic.

EDIT: what is funny re-watching it... see'ing Zombies climbing over fences [when later on they don't] and one part where the zombie breaks the glass door with a rock in his hands [well looks like a rock]



Seen how he reacts when he lost his wife [lost complete sense, no functions], and we have seen his overwhelming nature to protect Carl, to the point of using his teeth to win.


Why is it funny that early season zombies were stronger? This was done on purpose. They're making them degrade as seasons pass.
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Mar 30 2015 08:04pm
Quote (CMBurns @ Mar 30 2015 07:53pm)
Why is it funny that early season zombies were stronger? This was done on purpose. They're making them degrade as seasons pass.


So many loopholes to the zombies and all the issues on hand, like their fear of the zombies yet they have found multiple ways to manipulate and make the zombies not even acknowledge them, like the blood&guts of season1, or michonnes personal walkers, the fact they could chain and line zombies outside anywhere they reside to stop, yet dont, kind of wish things like that didnt come into play so people couldn't question why they dont abuse these tactics.

never read the comics so idk what happens later, but i personally am curious as to where the shows going to be even multiple seasons from now, because they obviously want to create a new world and civilization yet if they cant find a cure for it theres legitimately no point, even after exterminating the entire zombie race it wont end since theyre all infected, my dreams are so much further down the line that theyre probably unreal haha.

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Mar 30 2015 08:27pm
Quote (izParagonzi @ Mar 30 2015 07:31pm)
:rofl: re watching season 1... Shane was a total dick from the start [EP1], he wanted Ricks wife, well, that is my impression based on his facial expression when asking Rick about his wife. And that is why he ended up wanting to kill Rick, jealousy and how everyone respected Ricks decisions more and more... he wasn't nuts, just pathetic.

EDIT: what is funny re-watching it... see'ing Zombies climbing over fences [when later on they don't] and one part where the zombie breaks the glass door with a rock in his hands [well looks like a rock]



Seen how he reacts when he lost his wife [lost complete sense, no functions], and we have seen his overwhelming nature to protect Carl, to the point of using his teeth to win.


Rewatch season 2 again, you will see the mixed signals Lori gives. I think she is ultimately responsible for the fiasco it turned into
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Mar 30 2015 08:44pm
Quote (Bazi @ Mar 31 2015 02:27am)
Rewatch season 2 again, you will see the mixed signals Lori gives. I think she is ultimately responsible for the fiasco it turned into


That was more a result of terrible writing and a bad actor.
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Mar 30 2015 11:19pm
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So many loopholes to the zombies and all the issues on hand, like their fear of the zombies yet they have found multiple ways to manipulate and make the zombies not even acknowledge them, like the blood&guts of season1, or michonnes personal walkers, the fact they could chain and line zombies outside anywhere they reside to stop, yet dont, kind of wish things like that didnt come into play so people couldn't question why they dont abuse these tactics.

never read the comics so idk what happens later, but i personally am curious as to where the shows going to be even multiple seasons from now, because they obviously want to create a new world and civilization yet if they cant find a cure for it theres legitimately no point, even after exterminating the entire zombie race it wont end since theyre all infected, my dreams are so much further down the line that theyre probably unreal haha.



Just live in a normal society where you stab the deceased in the brains

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Quote (CMBurns @ Mar 31 2015 01:53pm)
Why is it funny that early season zombies were stronger? This was done on purpose. They're making them degrade as seasons pass.


Stronger / Degrade... that was not what I was laughing at... even if the bodies are degrading, they automatically stop climbing a fence, or use a rock to smash the window?
Even the last remaining doctor at the CdC stated, the only part of the brain left functional when turned, is the MOTOR, making them able to move, so does that mean, they can
run all of a sudden, then stop running and only walk? Does it also mean that the motor function controls the bone mass when they have no muscle tissue on arms / legs to keep
them in motion? Of course I am laughing, one or two climb a fence, but none of the other 50+ do? ... personally I think it is the extras they use getting over zealous.

Quote (Bazi @ Mar 31 2015 03:27pm)
Rewatch season 2 again, you will see the mixed signals Lori gives. I think she is ultimately responsible for the fiasco it turned into


Mixed signals in season 2... are you kidding me... Shane in season 1 episode 3 [or 4] was about to KILL Rick then, and then there is Shane later on at the CdC where he lost his
cool and nearly RAPED her [again season 1] ... later on in season 2, there were no mixed signals, she just about lost her son [coming to the farm], but also, we see Shane
wanting to leave the group because there was nothing there for him... again showing him to be only thinking of himself wanting her, he is misreading her signals, not her
showing mixed signals [but only at the 4th episode, will come back to you on this in more depth, or you can just take your own advice and re-watch it.]

Remember, season 1 is ONLY six episodes long.

Quote (kragujevac @ Mar 31 2015 03:44pm)
That was more a result of terrible writing and a bad actor.


Haven't read the comics, got nothing to compare it too for myself. but, maybe it was only the acting... :D

Quote (Meatstick @ Mar 31 2015 06:19pm)
Just live in a normal society where you stab the deceased in the brains


Don't know what you mean by that, they were on the money where it took like 5+ smashes to the skull before killing it [early season 1]
where later on [approx 9-12 months] they start to become easier. Yet he is correct in what he has stated beforehand, where they
could have used stategies that work to scavange with minimal life loss. Michonnes technique being the best so far, and they could
use it at Alexandria when they go out getting more supplies. Remember, you can always make room in the truck by killing them and
just hunt for others in pits, like they used by the Govenors township.

Slow process, but effective.

This post was edited by izParagonzi on Mar 31 2015 01:29am
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Mar 31 2015 01:57am
Quote (izParagonzi @ 31 Mar 2015 03:26)
Stronger / Degrade... that was not what I was laughing at... even if the bodies are degrading, they automatically stop climbing a fence, or use a rock to smash the window?
Even the last remaining doctor at the CdC stated, the only part of the brain left functional when turned, is the MOTOR, making them able to move, so does that mean, they can
run all of a sudden, then stop running and only walk? Does it also mean that the motor function controls the bone mass when they have no muscle tissue on arms / legs to keep
them in motion? Of course I am laughing, one or two climb a fence, but none of the other 50+ do? ... personally I think it is the extras they use getting over zealous.
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You don't seem to understand what happens to a dead body (with obviously EXTREMELY slowed down degradation because it's fictional and they're zombies), the muscles break down, the tendons, bones, etc.

The whole "using a rock to smash a window" thing is about the only thing I would consider a mistake. You could even say that their brains also wither away slowly and they lose more and more functions.

But anything else makes perfect sense.


I always see people like you hung up on those tiny meaningless things which HAVE been talked about by producers and such. I mean c'mon.
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Mar 31 2015 03:38am
Quote (CMBurns @ Mar 31 2015 08:57pm)
You don't seem to understand what happens to a dead body (with obviously EXTREMELY slowed down degradation because it's fictional and they're zombies), the muscles break down, the tendons, bones, etc.

The whole "using a rock to smash a window" thing is about the only thing I would consider a mistake. You could even say that their brains also wither away slowly and they lose more and more functions.

But anything else makes perfect sense.


I always see people like you hung up on those tiny meaningless things which HAVE been talked about by producers and such. I mean c'mon.


I am laughing at this even more... I have stated in MANY posts, it is just a program, not real etc.

As for decomposing rate that the show is portraying is fine, not arguing that point, you pointed this out misreading my points in my post, I was NOT referring
different seasons... I was referring to the same episode of season 1 in the same scene... there is no argument you can state otherwise... it is funny see'ing 1
zombie climb the same fence when the other 20+ did not try to climb it, they just walked upto it.

Going back and watching it is good, you pick up things you don't notice... :D try it... you can laugh at it and still appreciate it as the show it is.

Quote (Bazi @ Mar 31 2015 03:27pm)
Rewatch season 2 again, you will see the mixed signals Lori gives. I think she is ultimately responsible for the fiasco it turned into


Episode 7 at the moment of season 2... once again there is no mixed signals, and Shane is still being a douche, only good thing he did, was be the person that kept Rick alive while he
was in the hospital
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Mar 31 2015 06:59am
Quote (kragujevac @ Mar 30 2015 09:44pm)
That was more a result of terrible writing and a bad actor.


well the show = what the writers say

Quote (izParagonzi @ Mar 31 2015 02:26am)



Mixed signals in season 2... are you kidding me... Shane in season 1 episode 3 [or 4] was about to KILL Rick then, and then there is Shane later on at the CdC where he lost his
cool and nearly RAPED her [again season 1] ... later on in season 2, there were no mixed signals, she just about lost her son [coming to the farm], but also, we see Shane
wanting to leave the group because there was nothing there for him... again showing him to be only thinking of himself wanting her, he is misreading her signals, not her
showing mixed signals [but only at the 4th episode, will come back to you on this in more depth, or you can just take your own advice and re-watch it.]


Except for after the rick/shane confrontation and an understanding seem to have been reached after rick's talk in the car.

Then Lori unleashed the beast the next episode after talking to Shane, admitting to her own mixed feelings about the situation.
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Mar 31 2015 07:17am
Quote (Bazi @ Mar 31 2015 12:59pm)
well the show = what the writers say



Except for after the rick/shane confrontation and an understanding seem to have been reached after rick's talk in the car.

Then Lori unleashed the beast the next episode after talking to Shane, admitting to her own mixed feelings about the situation.


Yeah it was shit writing.
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