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Mar 23 2015 07:11pm
Quote (kragujevac @ Mar 23 2015 04:58pm)
The preview already showed various people exiled and in the wilderness.



tru the people they exile will probly come attack them

and rick was right :^)
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Mar 23 2015 08:56pm
Well... semi interesting. Rick was getting his ass kicked... wtf... really... guess the town made him soft.

Michone did the right thing.

The "W" on the zombies heads.... guessing they are put there by previous exiled people or people turned down from Alexandria. Well... there is either
going to be another group going to try and take over Alexandria while they discuss Ricks actions and hopefully Rick saves them... well his team anyway.
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Mar 23 2015 10:41pm
The stupid W's have something to do with the finale, they got so much screen time.

We are about to find out who put them there, they all seem to travel towards Alexandria
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Mar 24 2015 02:32am
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I don't think Rick was going to do anything about that physical abuse until he asked if she wanted help and she said yes
and then the Husband showed up and forced his hand, so not really sure anyone is going to get evicted.
You need people and its not like you can put a wanted ad in the paper.


Rick also wasn't going to stop badgering her until he got her to say yes. He already expressed to Deanna his desire to execute the guy. He isn't going to get off light because the other guy threw the first punch. Rick was the instigator and everyone knows it.

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Mar 24 2015 02:37am
Quote (LuLer @ Mar 23 2015 07:59pm)
So anyone wanna explain why Rick goes crazy for no reason?

It's dumb how Rick only cares about the girl being beaten because he "likes" her when really, based on his character, he wouldn't stand for it no matter who it was.


And do they really have to waste my time with that terrible banal teenage love story shit? Like seriously, a show like TWD should be way above something so predictable, unoriginal and bad in general.


Therein lies the answer. He wouldn't have stood for it previously if it was a randomer, and now he probably would do nothing about it.

Instead of getting in Deanna's good books, waiting for her grief to settle and making ties with the locals, Rick belligerently confronts Pete. In a way, that aggressive leadership style is reminiscent of Shane in season 2. The group cannot integrate because they've been on the outside too long to switch back to civilization.

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Mar 24 2015 02:53am
Quote (LuLer @ Mar 23 2015 02:59pm)
So anyone wanna explain why Rick goes crazy for no reason?

It's dumb how Rick only cares about the girl being beaten because he "likes" her when really, based on his character, he wouldn't stand for it no matter who it was.


And do they really have to waste my time with that terrible banal teenage love story shit? Like seriously, a show like TWD should be way above something so predictable, unoriginal and bad in general.


no reason? The stress of having to lead a group in an apocalypse is the reason they've been developing for 4 seasons.

The whole point of this is to show his craziness coming out
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Mar 24 2015 03:07am
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Therein lies the answer. He wouldn't have stood for it previously if it was a randomer, and now he probably would do nothing about it.

Instead of getting in Deanna's good books, waiting for her grief to settle and making ties with the locals, Rick belligerently confronts Pete. In a way, that aggressive leadership style is reminiscent of Shane in season 2. The group cannot integrate because they've been on the outside too long to switch back to civilization.


It is not about being out there too long, it is about the hard truths that Alexandria hasn't really confronted, nor do they know how to deal with it properly.
Best examples are when they were gathering construction material and they would have left that woman there to die, and we all saw how scared the boys
were when they went out scavaging, they even stated they ran away and left others to die.

Personally I do not think Rick is in anyway the same as Shane [The Govenor], that prick was hung up on himself, wanting a cure for his daughter, then revenge
because of her death, even when he found another group, killing them outright and going to war on the Prison... then turning down the proposal because of his
anger and fear.

Anyway... guess it is how I read into the program and the way it is portrayed could be different, or maybe something else altogether. Nope, have not read the comics.

EDIT: remember that the entirety of these seasons is equivalent to 10-12 months since it started.

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It is not about being out there too long, it is about the hard truths that Alexandria hasn't really confronted, nor do they know how to deal with it properly.
Best examples are when they were gathering construction material and they would have left that woman there to die, and we all saw how scared the boys
were when they went out scavaging, they even stated they ran away and left others to die.

Personally I do not think Rick is in anyway the same as Shane [The Govenor], that prick was hung up on himself, wanting a cure for his daughter, then revenge
because of her death, even when he found another group, killing them outright and going to war on the Prison... then turning down the proposal because of his
anger and fear.

Anyway... guess it is how I read into the program and the way it is portrayed could be different, or maybe something else altogether. Nope, have not read the comics.

EDIT: remember that the entirety of these seasons is equivalent to 10-12 months since it started.


It's true that Alexandria does not understand what it's really like out there, but that doesn't change how the group has also changed for the worse. Killing a wifebeater is quite severe a punishment.
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Mar 24 2015 03:15am
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It is not about being out there too long, it is about the hard truths that Alexandria hasn't really confronted, nor do they know how to deal with it properly.
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Personally I do not think Rick is in anyway the same as Shane [The Govenor], that prick was hung up on himself, wanting a cure for his daughter, then revenge
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As you say, Rick is right that there are some problems with the Alexandria people way of doing things. But we've also been seeing people from the main group struggle with their sanity. Rick letting his emotions for Jesse cloud his judgement is an example.
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Mar 24 2015 05:04am
Quote (izParagonzi @ Mar 24 2015 09:07am)
It is not about being out there too long, it is about the hard truths that Alexandria hasn't really confronted, nor do they know how to deal with it properly.
Best examples are when they were gathering construction material and they would have left that woman there to die, and we all saw how scared the boys
were when they went out scavaging, they even stated they ran away and left others to die.

Personally I do not think Rick is in anyway the same as Shane [The Govenor], that prick was hung up on himself, wanting a cure for his daughter, then revenge
because of her death, even when he found another group, killing them outright and going to war on the Prison... then turning down the proposal because of his
anger and fear.

Anyway... guess it is how I read into the program and the way it is portrayed could be different, or maybe something else altogether. Nope, have not read the comics.

EDIT: remember that the entirety of these seasons is equivalent to 10-12 months since it started.


Rick is somewhat the same as Shane and the Governor, at this point all three act decisively and without any real consideration to council, as rick said its a dictatorship; in the early seasons he was more compassionate? I guess towards other and tried to do right by being civil, especially with Tyrese and the prison murders. Now he has developed the same shoot first ask no questions policy since the hospital and terminus, they all look out for each other but they have lost the civility that Deanna is trying to cultivate in Alexandria.

Logically Rick and pals mentality is correct in such a world, but should that be the ideal way to live? Or can people still try to bring back civilization? Deanna thinks so hence Alexandria and her's naivete such as employing constables, trying to find pasta maker machines etc. Their way of thinking seems the most illogical but then again which side is really the ideal one?

I haven't read the comics so I don't know Deanna's true intentions or the goal of Alexandria but so far it has been explicitly stated by Deanna that what they are after is to rebuild civilization.

Either way, I can't wait for the finale.

This post was edited by kragujevac on Mar 24 2015 05:04am
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