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Dec 1 2014 10:26pm
Quote (wafflehunter @ Dec 1 2014 09:06pm)
na they cleaned out the baddies

beth killed the rapist

the one beth pushed off the elevator was implied to be bad, only clues we have is that he bullied some old guy and dawn mentioning that he laughed about the girl getting raped

the one rick killed was probably good and so are the ones still alive, although dude was an idiot for running. running initially is a good idea since like he said, he doesnt know whether rick's group is bad or good. but rick gave him a chance to stop once he caught up to him, at which point he can either die running away (the option he chose), or take a gamble, stop and possibly live

the remaining were good since the girl cop who was taken hostage tried to speak up against dawn when she tried to change the deal and ask for noah back

also if they were bad, they would've had a full blown shootout in that hallway

plus when rick offered others to leave, none did....at that moment i think both groups knew that each other were good as they offered to each other assistance

beth stabbed dawn because she also lost "it", dawn explained to beth that she had to kill the previous leader, her mentor because he lost sight of wat it was to lead or w/e, don't remember 100%

but that scene was basically setting up for beth to kill dawn because in a way dawn became beth's mentor and just as dawn killed her mentor, beth now kills dawn, since beth now realizes too that dawn has lost her way (though she failed and daryl had to finish dawn off)


i dont think so...

dawn new beth killed the rapist... she was fine with that cus she wanted him gone same with the guy who beth pushed off elevator


why would the 2 other cops lie like that to dawn about the cop rick killed saying walkers killed him?. cus the cop ricked killed was a good one same with dawn... and the 2 other cops where bad cops.


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Dec 1 2014 10:27pm
i almsot cried when beth died

RIP
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Dec 1 2014 10:35pm
Quote (MillerT1meUp @ Dec 1 2014 08:26pm)
i dont think so...

dawn new beth killed the rapist... she was fine with that cus she wanted him gone same with the guy who beth pushed off elevator


why would the 2 other cops lie like that to dawn about the cop rick killed saying walkers killed him?. cus the cop ricked killed was a good one same with dawn... and the 2 other cops where bad cops.


Hold on just a second....maybe they said that so that they wouldn't die. Because if they wouldn't have sold the case to Rick that they could still negotiate with Dawn. Rick would have presumably killed them seeing as they had no value after that.
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Dec 1 2014 10:55pm
Quote (wwe_extremist @ Dec 1 2014 09:35pm)
Hold on just a second....maybe they said that so that they wouldn't die.  Because if they wouldn't have sold the case to Rick that they could still negotiate with Dawn.  Rick would have presumably killed them seeing as they had no value after that.


well we know dawn dident like that bad stuff that was going on in the hospital... the rapes and the way some of the cops treated the other people. i think dawn was a good person trying to hold it all together but she couldnt control some of her cops. and the 2 cops lie about how the other cop was killed cus they new he was on dawns side.


then they dident do anything when daryl killed dawn cus they all so wanted her gone... so maybe ricks group killed all the good people left there? so probly turn in to some kind of slave sex den. and we saw at the end the black kid left with rick and looked like one other cop. i bet the reason the black kid said it was all right to say cus he all so new she was trying to do good
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Dec 1 2014 11:09pm
Quote (MillerT1meUp @ Dec 1 2014 09:26pm)
i dont think so...

dawn new beth killed the rapist... she was fine with that cus she wanted him gone same with the guy who beth pushed off elevator



wat are u disagreeing with here, i dont understand

Quote (MillerT1meUp @ Dec 1 2014 09:26pm)
why would the 2 other cops lie like that to dawn about the cop rick killed saying walkers killed him?. cus the cop ricked killed was a good one same with dawn... and the 2 other cops where bad cops.


they had a conversation about this

when rick came back they asked the hostages how dawn would react to him killing one of their hostages

they told him the truth, which is that dawn wouldn't go on with the trade

if that happened

1. they knew that their value as hostages is gone and risked getting killed
2. rick's group would have to full on assault dawn's group resulting in massive casualties

so nothing good would come out of them telling dawn what really happened



dawn is not a good cop...it was confusing at first which side she was on, but the end scene sealed it

1. she allowed the other cops to abuse the patients, she didn't intervene because she knew she was hanging onto power by a thread
either way, a good cop would've stopped it

2. she's keeping all the patients there hostage, food and security is paid for by serving them, but u never really get to pay off completely, ur basically held against ur will in that hospital forever

3. she murders the previous leader, the mentor and usurps power from him, now we don't know exactly what happened between them but it's still a point in the evil side for her

now of course all these points could be argued either way depending on how you view the situation

but like i said the end scene where she backs out on a perfectly good deal to try and take noah back, it was clear to beth (who is good) that dawn was bad, which is why beth attacked her

Quote (MillerT1meUp @ Dec 1 2014 09:55pm)
well we know dawn dident like that bad stuff that was going on in the hospital... the rapes and the way some of the cops treated the other people. i think dawn was a good person trying to hold it all together but she couldnt control some of her cops. and the 2 cops lie about how the other cop was killed cus they new he was on dawns side.


then they dident do anything when daryl killed dawn cus they all so wanted her gone... so maybe ricks group killed all the good people left there? so probly turn in to some kind of slave sex den. and we saw at the end the black kid left with rick and looked like one other cop. i bet the reason the black kid said it was all right to say cus he all so new she was trying to do good


turning a blind eye to evil, also makes u evil

her inability to lead and lack of power allowed for the rape to go on which ultimately resulted in the death of that girl who was raped


if only evil cops remained, they wouldn't have offered them to stay at the hospital, it was pretty clear that rick's group can handle their own and wouldnt allow for ur "sex slave den" to happen

like i said before, rick also allowed for any of the patients to leave, now the patients know who's bad and who's good, if they were about to become "sex slaves" why didn't any of them leave with rick?

they didn't because they knew only the good cops remain

This post was edited by wafflehunter on Dec 1 2014 11:14pm
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Dec 2 2014 11:38am
Thanks to AMC spoiling the mid season finale on facebook for the west coast lol
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Dec 3 2014 12:02am
Morgan is so close to catching up with Rick's group, I hope they finally meetup
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Dec 3 2014 12:10am
Quote (Meatstick @ Dec 3 2014 01:02am)
Morgan is so close to catching up with Rick's group, I hope they finally meetup


He will. He has some significance coming up.
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Dec 3 2014 12:11am
Quote (Arsenic_Touch @ Dec 3 2014 02:10am)
He will. He has some significance coming up.


OH REALLY?
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Dec 3 2014 01:20am
wow. lol bring her back in the series only to kill her off. might as well killed her off earlier lol
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