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Apr 26 2019 07:19pm
good movie but inferior to infinity war
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Apr 26 2019 08:19pm
Quote (Nihility @ Apr 26 2019 08:19pm)
good movie but inferior to infinity war


its different in a way. there are a few scenes that coulda been cut to show the whole prof hulk thing him just being was kinda letdown
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Apr 26 2019 09:52pm
Time travel shit scenario, so not really a spoiler but more like a warning
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Apr 26 2019 10:32pm
Quote (Nihility @ Apr 26 2019 09:19pm)
good movie but inferior to infinity war


I agree

The biggest problem with endgame was that so many sections of it overstayed their welcome. Spoilers below










I get that they wanted to show the despair of the world post-snap, but there’s no reason that part of the movie needed to last so long. It was honestly pretty dull and completely unnecessary after that tone was established. The time travel portion sort of suffers from the same problem, but to a lesser extent. They also spent way much time grooming the characters for the endings they all got, taking away any semblance of surprise that they might have had. I’m fine with fan service but when it makes the movie worse it’s an issue

I also really don’t like what they did with some of the characters, especially Thor. They just are really terrible at balancing their characters and I think that leads to them being forced to find stupid ways to tone them down for subsequent movies. Like Thor had an entire movie dedicated to his character progression and then they decided that was too much so they made him a useless fat fuck. He does absolutely nothing of value in this movie outside of bringing the hammer from the past, and this is after consistently being the most powerful character in every one of these movies. They did something similar with hulk in infinity war, and they made captain marvel way too powerful so they just only made her do 1 real thing in the entire movie. It’s such a lazy way of making the conflict have higher stakes, and the movies suffer for it

Thanos was also reverted into a typical “I’m bad for the sake of being bad” villain, and it’s a shame after they developed him so well in the last movie

I still did like the movie quite a bit, and there were some really enjoyable parts, but it’s sad to see what could have been a great movie get stifled by stupid decisions

This post was edited by Flameyes on Apr 26 2019 10:34pm
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I agree

The biggest problem with endgame was that so many sections of it overstayed their welcome. Spoilers below










I get that they wanted to show the despair of the world post-snap, but there’s no reason that part of the movie needed to last so long. It was honestly pretty dull and completely unnecessary after that tone was established. The time travel portion sort of suffers from the same problem, but to a lesser extent. They also spent way much time grooming the characters for the endings they all got, taking away any semblance of surprise that they might have had. I’m fine with fan service but when it makes the movie worse it’s an issue

I also really don’t like what they did with some of the characters, especially Thor. They just are really terrible at balancing their characters and I think that leads to them being forced to find stupid ways to tone them down for subsequent movies. Like Thor had an entire movie dedicated to his character progression and then they decided that was too much so they made him a useless fat fuck. He does absolutely nothing of value in this movie outside of bringing the hammer from the past, and this is after consistently being the most powerful character in every one of these movies. They did something similar with hulk in infinity war, and they made captain marvel way too powerful so they just only made her do 1 real thing in the entire movie. It’s such a lazy way of making the conflict have higher stakes, and the movies suffer for it

Thanos was also reverted into a typical “I’m bad for the sake of being bad” villain, and it’s a shame after they developed him so well in the last movie

I still did like the movie quite a bit, and there were some really enjoyable parts, but it’s sad to see what could have been a great movie get stifled by stupid decisions


Eh I have to disagree with a lot of this. Thor and his arc was fantastic in this movie and makes a lot of sense tbh. He was always a bit narcissistic and had a huge ego, he has literally never failed. His entire character in Infinity War is hanging on a thread of defeating Thanos and he wasn't able to. Having his character being completely broken by that makes a lot of sense. Also that scene with his mom was super emotional.

There are also a few things I'd have liked to spend more time with. I would love a post-snap pre-endgame Hawkeye movie.

I do think Marvel was underutilized, but they explained it well enough. I also don't think they nerfed characters, I think they made Thanos too strong, but I mean I get they kind of had to.

Honestly the worst part of the movie was that feminism charge. Like what the fuck is a stupid bitch with a spear going to do to help a fucking Godlike being?

Edit: I don't think they spent too much time on any specific place, I didn't mind the length of the movie. What I kind of didn't like was the drastic tonal shifts. It honestly felt like it should have been 3 different movies.

Also wtf happened with Loki. Huge plot hole they never addressed.

E2: also I don't know how you can say they reverted Thanos character. Literally nothing about his character or motivation changed.

This post was edited by Blah58 on Apr 27 2019 12:05pm
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Apr 27 2019 12:16pm
Gay scene was a waste of film time as well
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Apr 27 2019 09:15pm
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Eh I have to disagree with a lot of this. Thor and his arc was fantastic in this movie and makes a lot of sense tbh. He was always a bit narcissistic and had a huge ego, he has literally never failed. His entire character in Infinity War is hanging on a thread of defeating Thanos and he wasn't able to. Having his character being completely broken by that makes a lot of sense. Also that scene with his mom was super emotional.

There are also a few things I'd have liked to spend more time with. I would love a post-snap pre-endgame Hawkeye movie.

I do think Marvel was underutilized, but they explained it well enough. I also don't think they nerfed characters, I think they made Thanos too strong, but I mean I get they kind of had to.

Honestly the worst part of the movie was that feminism charge. Like what the fuck is a stupid bitch with a spear going to do to help a fucking Godlike being?

Edit: I don't think they spent too much time on any specific place, I didn't mind the length of the movie. What I kind of didn't like was the drastic tonal shifts. It honestly felt like it should have been 3 different movies.

Also wtf happened with Loki. Huge plot hole they never addressed.

E2: also I don't know how you can say they reverted Thanos character. Literally nothing about his character or motivation changed.


Aren’t Loki and Hawkeye going to be in the marvel tv show thing that they’re making?
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Apr 27 2019 09:24pm
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good movie but inferior to infinity war


This.
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Apr 27 2019 10:36pm
Quote (Nihility @ Apr 26 2019 08:19pm)
good movie but inferior to infinity war


Yeah, this.

Doesn't deserve the ratings it got
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Apr 29 2019 11:46pm
Went and saw it tonight finally. It was almost exactly what I thought it was going to be. Typical Marvel movie with lots of canned jokes, mediocre performances (outside a few moments) and I thought the "epic battle" was super underwhelming and cheesy. There were a handful of decent moments, but it was lackluster. That being said, they did a great job with the pacing. 3.5 hours (counting trailers and w/e) didn't drag at all until the LotResque ending. RDJ was good as usual, no surprise there. Couple smfh moments, but like I said, it was as mediocre and predictable as assumed. 6-6.5/10

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Eh I have to disagree with a lot of this. Thor and his arc was fantastic in this movie and makes a lot of sense tbh. He was always a bit narcissistic and had a huge ego, he has literally never failed. His entire character in Infinity War is hanging on a thread of defeating Thanos and he wasn't able to. Having his character being completely broken by that makes a lot of sense. Also that scene with his mom was super emotional.


Agreed. I thought they did a pretty good job with this. He was one of the more likable aspects of the film.

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I do think Marvel was underutilized, but they explained it well enough. I also don't think they nerfed characters, I think they made Thanos too strong, but I mean I get they kind of had to.


They didn't really explain it at all.... Her power fluctuated dramatically and the ending makes no sense with a being that powerful there. Why the fuck can't she just throw the gauntlet on and snap a million times?

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Honestly the worst part of the movie was that feminism charge. Like what the fuck is a stupid bitch with a spear going to do to help a fucking Godlike being?


There were multiple loud groans in the theater at that moment. It was so fucking pointless and pathetic. I don't know how women don't find shit like that super patronizing, I would.

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Also wtf happened with Loki. Huge plot hole they never addressed.


I think we're operating under the assumption that everything was put back to normal in every time-line. That's assuming a lot and giving them more credit than they deserve, but that would explain it. Tony never collapses in the first place, hulk doesn't knock the case open and next to Loki.

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E2: also I don't know how you can say they reverted Thanos character. Literally nothing about his character or motivation changed.


My guess is that he felt the same about Thanos' shift from "I must destroy life, to preserve life. I'm bringing balance in order to safe everyone, I am just a necessary evil." to "I'm going to kill everyone and rule the universe as a terrifying God because a handful of people defied me.". He's a zealot when it comes to his ideals, and all he needs to fix the quirk in his original plan, is to erase a handful of extra people. Him making the jump to wipe out all existence and recreate it as ignorant and grateful, didn't make a hell of a lot of sense for Thanos imo.

This post was edited by jadeoshbogosh on Apr 30 2019 12:00am
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