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Nov 30 2017 02:35pm
Quote (Malignanttumor666 @ Nov 30 2017 02:17pm)
and thats your opinion. you see that you keep proving my point.


No, that is the actual definition of an argument. It's not opinion. You're just wrong.

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Nov 30 2017 03:16pm
Quote (Malignanttumor666 @ Nov 30 2017 04:17pm)
and thats your opinion. you see that you keep proving my point.


I think anyone who is reading this can see how wrong froggy is... Just let it go imho.
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I think anyone who is reading this can see how wrong froggy is... Just let it go imho.


This is what I'm referring to. An opinion with no support isn't even worth stating.

Adds nothing.

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Nov 30 2017 04:33pm
Quote (chelsea11 @ Nov 30 2017 01:16pm)
I think anyone who is reading this can see how wrong froggy is... Just let it go imho.


Not even remotely....

I see where he's coming from, and depending on the topic, I agree with him. Some things are just fact, and it doesn't matter if a well-informed person is arguing on behalf of the non-factual thing, while an idiot is arguing on behalf of facts, I'm going to side with the facts regardless. When dealing with something like media, movies, television, games etc.. it's all opinionated, but how well you defend your opinion, is what determines whether or not you're right, at least imo. X was good, because I liked it, is not a compelling argument, and it's not going to sway my opinion. If you come in and give a detailed explanation of what was done well, vs what was done poorly, and weigh those pros and cons to show that the movie was worth seeing or not worth seeing, I'd be more likely to go see or not go see the movie, based off that. Obviously my own opinion is generally the most important factor, since I am fairly confident in my first take opinion of things, which is formed by a number of components, the studio, director, type of film, etc.. (although I have been wrong in the past, Baby Driver being a recent example of something I thought looked horrible by the previews.)
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Not even remotely....

I see where he's coming from, and depending on the topic, I agree with him. Some things are just fact, and it doesn't matter if a well-informed person is arguing on behalf of the non-factual thing, while an idiot is arguing on behalf of facts, I'm going to side with the facts regardless. When dealing with something like media, movies, television, games etc.. it's all opinionated, but how well you defend your opinion, is what determines whether or not you're right, at least imo. X was good, because I liked it, is not a compelling argument, and it's not going to sway my opinion. If you come in and give a detailed explanation of what was done well, vs what was done poorly, and weigh those pros and cons to show that the movie was worth seeing or not worth seeing, I'd be more likely to go see or not go see the movie, based off that. Obviously my own opinion is generally the most important factor, since I am fairly confident in my first take opinion of things, which is formed by a number of components, the studio, director, type of film, etc.. (although I have been wrong in the past, Baby Driver being a recent example of something I thought looked horrible by the previews.)


The thing is anyone who has an actual life wouldn't care to elaborate on why they thought a movie was good. Why do I care to try and convince someone over the internet movie xyz was outstanding?
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Nov 30 2017 05:17pm
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The thing is anyone who has an actual life wouldn't care to elaborate on why they thought a movie was good. Why do I care to try and convince someone over the internet movie xyz was outstanding?


If giving brain dead opinions is the only way to have a life then I've been dead since puberty.

Also, why are you even posting in the first place if you aren't trying to make any point with your posts? Isn't it just meaningless spam then?

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If giving brain dead opinions is the only way to have a life then I've been dead since puberty.

Also, why are you even posting in the first place if you aren't trying to make any point with your posts? Isn't it just meaningless spam then?


Basically everything is meaningless spam. Read what you've been discussing on the previous page of an avenger infinity war topic...
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The thing is anyone who has an actual life wouldn't care to elaborate on why they thought a movie was good. Why do I care to try and convince someone over the internet movie xyz was outstanding?


More contradictory and baffling logic from someone who loves these movies. I rest my case
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Nov 30 2017 05:39pm
Quote (chelsea11 @ Nov 30 2017 05:20pm)
Basically everything is meaningless spam. Read what you've been discussing on the previous page of an avenger infinity war topic...


How so? If someone is gaining knowledge or new perspectives on things, then it is not meaningless.
Also coming up with support for our opinions reinforces your own beliefs. Yet again, not meaningless.
It can also make you better at arguing over all as you learn how to support and defend points. This skill can extrapolate even to your professional or school life through writing papers or arguments in daily life.
Lastly, a lot of people simply enjoy having real debates about topics they are interested in.

I'm missing where any of this is meaningless?

On the other hand, saying "I like movies hypehype so epic drool drool" does none of this.

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Quote (FroggyG @ Nov 30 2017 03:39pm)
How so? If someone is gaining knowledge or new perspectives on things, then it is not meaningless.
Also coming up with support for our opinions reinforces your own beliefs. Yet again, not meaningless.
It can also make you better at arguing over all as you learn how to support and defend points. This skill can extrapolate even to your professional or school life through writing papers or arguments in daily life.
Lastly, a lot of people simply enjoy having real debates about topics they are interested in.

I'm missing where any of this is meaningless?

On the other hand, saying "I like movies hypehype so epic drool drool" does none of this.


You know what the issue is here. Just drop it, he's never going to see reason, as people of his ilk never do.
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