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May 15 2017 01:34pm
Quote (jadeoshbogosh @ May 15 2017 12:38am)
Why does everything in the starwars prequels look more advanced if it's 20 too 30 years in the past? Oh ya, because that's how shit works in movies. Once again, another stupid thing to get snagged on.

It was a shit movie because the characters were awful. It was impossible to relate to any of them and any reasonable person would be rooting for their deaths. The story was bad and clunky. Another one of those movies that seems more concerned about selling sequels, than producing something of above average quality right then. The writing was mediocre at best. Not the worst I've seen, and superior when compared to almost all summer blockbusters (superhero movies, Michael bay etc..). Finally, it all just had a forced feel to it. There was no suspense or care, I was never on the edge of my seat, I never front concerned about any of the characters and for the entire last hour, I just wanted it to end and didn't care about the outcome at all.

People seemed to love it though and the critics thought it was at least good. The only things I found enjoyable in the entirety of the film, were the visuals, which were stunning, and Fassbender's character for a short period. Even his dialogue turned to shit at a certain point and his actions became nonsensical and outright stupid.


There we go.
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May 15 2017 01:44pm
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There we go.


A single character's actions becoming erratic for a short period of time proves your point of the entire movie not making sense? Come on man, you're better than this.

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May 15 2017 02:24pm
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A single character's actions becoming erratic for a short period of time proves your point of the entire movie not making sense? Come on man, you're better than this.


But it did prove your previous statement wrong which makes me more correct than you. You just need to stop thinking about it as an observer and start trying to think of it in terms of the movie itself.

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Perhaps we have a different definition of the phrase. I felt it all made sense, it was just poorly done and stupid. Something can make sense and be simultaneously idiotic, that's what this entire film was.


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Even his dialogue turned to shit at a certain point and his actions became nonsensical and outright stupid.


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May 15 2017 02:36pm
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But it did prove your previous statement wrong which makes me more correct than you. You just need to stop thinking about it as an observer and start trying to think of it in terms of the movie itself.


I really hope you're trolling and not actually this stupid. Out of all the stupid and unfounded things you've said, this is one of the worst, If not the worst.

In case you're actually serious and not just fucking with me. A single character's actions and speech not making sense for a part of a movie, do not mean that the movie didn't make sense. This tactic is employed in loads of movies that all make sense lol. Those comments don't contradict, and trying desperately to win an argument on a technicality is the surest indicator of who's losing...which is strange, you're so desperate to be right that you're now trying to start shit with the one person who mostly agrees with you lol.

You're better than this kid, and my expectations of you are nearly non-existent.

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May 15 2017 04:10pm
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I really hope you're trolling and not actually this stupid. Out of all the stupid and unfounded things you've said, this is one of the worst, If not the worst.

In case you're actually serious and not just fucking with me. A single character's actions and speech not making sense for a part of a movie, do not mean that the movie didn't make sense. This tactic is employed in loads of movies that all make sense lol. Those comments don't contradict, and trying desperately to win an argument on a technicality is the surest indicator of who's losing...which is strange, you're so desperate to be right that you're now trying to start shit with the one person who mostly agrees with you lol.

You're better than this kid, and my expectations of you are nearly non-existent.


You are unable to put yourself in a situation that is outside of yourself which is why you don't understand what I'm talking about. That's fine, I know when trying to explain something becomes fruitless.

At least you know the movie is bad.
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May 15 2017 05:48pm
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You are unable to put yourself in a situation that is outside of yourself which is why you don't understand what I'm talking about. That's fine, I know when trying to explain something becomes fruitless.

At least you know the movie is bad.


Seriously? You need to learn the tell tale signs of someone who's losing an argument, so that you can refrain from following them exactly in the future.

You threw decreasingly relevant things that you felt made no sense. For each of these that you posed to me, I was able to come up with a retort that even a child could make sense of. Then, once that failed, you resorted to claiming that you were "more correct than me", because I said Fassbender's actions became nonsensical. You then acted like a child with the "OMG, you said this guy didn't make sense for part of the movie, I'm right, you're wrong, you're stupid hahahahahahhaah." It's terrifying that you think that statement added validity to your argument, it didn't, anyone who's ever seen a movie could tell you that the sense of a movie is not based off the actions of one person, that's not how shit works.

Once that failed and I pointed it out to you, as I've now done again, you resorted to the last defense of someone who's failing miserably, personal attacks. Obviously I'm a self-centered asshole and that's the problem here. The problem couldn't possibly be you, the guy who's trying with everything he has to be right when he's clearly not. The movie was fucking awful, but as a whole, it made sense..... There's no debating that. Anyone with a brain knows it made sense. You watched some YouTube video of some asshole who's infinitely smarter than yourself (not saying a lot), but he said 2 things you thought on your own and then 10,000 things you then blindly agreed with. There are hundreds of videos online explaining everything in Prometheus and why it makes sense. Have I watched any of these? No... I don't need to, I'm capable of forming opinions on my own. You're the guy who searched for whether or not vaccines are bad, you throw out every single scientific article in the world and then find some blog from some retarded teenager agreeing with you and then act as though you HAVE TO BE RIGHT, because some fucking idiot on the internet agrees with you. I can see beyond myself, I can see that I had valid counters to everything you said and that you resorted to trying to belittle me on a technicality and then you turned to personal attacks lol.

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May 15 2017 06:03pm
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Seriously? You need to learn the tell tale signs of someone who's losing an argument, so that you can refrain from following them exactly in the future.

You threw decreasingly relevant things that you felt made no sense. For each of these that you posed to me, I was able to come up with a retort that even a child could make sense of. Then, once that failed, you resorted to claiming that you were "more correct than me", because I said Fassbender's actions became nonsensical. You then acted like a child with the "OMG, you said this guy didn't make sense for part of the movie, I'm right, you're wrong, you're stupid hahahahahahhaah." It's terrifying that you think that statement added validity to your argument, it didn't, anyone who's ever seen a movie could tell you that the sense of a movie is not based off the actions of one person, that's not how shit works.

Once that failed and I pointed it out to you, as I've now done again, you resorted to the last defense of someone who's failing miserably, personal attacks. Obviously I'm a self-centered asshole and that's the problem here. The problem couldn't possibly be you, the guy who's trying with everything he has to be right when he's clearly not. The movie was fucking awful, but as a whole, it made sense..... There's no debating that. Anyone with a brain knows it made sense. You watched some YouTube video of some asshole who's infinitely smarter than yourself (not saying a lot), but he said 2 things you thought on your own and then 10,000 things you then blindly agreed with. There are hundreds of videos online explaining everything in Prometheus and why it makes sense. Have I watched any of these? No... I don't need to, I'm capable of forming opinions on my own. You're the guy who searched for whether or not vaccines are bad, you throw out every single scientific article in the world and then find some blog from some retarded teenager agreeing with you and then act as though you HAVE TO BE RIGHT, because some fucking idiot on the internet agrees with you. I can see beyond myself, I can see that I had valid counters to everything you said and that you resorted to trying to belittle me on a technicality and then you turned to personal attacks lol.


you're not allowed to disagree with him without being labelled retarded btw..
so be careful, you'll have to face his little fanboy next
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May 15 2017 06:50pm
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you're not allowed to disagree with him without being labelled retarded btw..
so be careful, you'll have to face his little fanboy next


Oh, I'm aware lol. Did you read through this shit show to see how the conversation progressed? Completely ridiculous. Gets frazzled since he can't make a point that will stick, doesn't understand the difference between a character not making sense and an entire movie not making sense, claims I'm wrong and he's right because he can't figure that out and then resorts to personal attacks lol.

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May 15 2017 10:45pm
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Oh, I'm aware lol. Did you read through this shit show to see how the conversation progressed? Completely ridiculous. Gets frazzled since he can't make a point that will stick, doesn't understand the difference between a character not making sense and an entire movie not making sense, claims I'm wrong and he's right because he can't figure that out and then resorts to personal attacks lol.


I didn't read your last post because I'm done caring. You are the one who attacked me. I never once attacked you. You called me stupid and a troll and said your opinion if me is non-existent. I said nothing towards you.

Every point I made you said was either bad writing or "a stupid thing to get snagged on" or "too many variables we don't know to say for sure". (By the way those are all you agreeing with me without you understanding you are agreeing with me.)

You are stubborn and refuse to change your opinion when faced with an argument that makes sense. (Btw that's the first "insulting" thing I have said to you.)

There is no reason to keep arguing against someone as hard headed as you. It's like trying to argue religion with a fanatic, fruitless.

I could spend 20-30 minutes writing you an essay on why I'm correct and explaining it like you are 5 so you will actually understand but why bother? Even if I did that I'm 99% confident that you will just go back to your 3 basic "bad writing, stupid to bring up, too many variables" and again not realize that, that is just you agreeing with me.

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May 15 2017 11:20pm
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I didn't read your last post because I'm done caring. You are the one who attacked me. I never once attacked you. You called me stupid and a troll and said your opinion if me is non-existent. I said nothing towards you.

Every point I made you said was either bad writing or "a stupid thing to get snagged on" or "too many variables we don't know to say for sure". (By the way those are all you agreeing with me without you understanding you are agreeing with me.)

You are stubborn and refuse to change your opinion when faced with an argument that makes sense. (Btw that's the first "insulting" thing I have said to you.)

There is no reason to keep arguing against someone as hard headed as you. It's like trying to argue religion with a fanatic, fruitless.

I could spend 20-30 minutes writing you an essay on why I'm correct and explaining it like you are 5 so you will actually understand but why bother? Even if I did that I'm 99% confident that you will just go back to your 3 basic "bad writing, stupid to bring up, too many variables" and again not realize that, that is just you agreeing with me.


You sure you're not confusing me with someone else lol? I said you were getting snagged on stupid things, I never called you stupid in this thread, I've called you stupid in other conversations, but I try to approach each and every JSP convo with a fresh perspective to be as unbiased as possible when hearing another person out. I did say my expectations for you were non-existent, but that was after you did the I'm more right than you bit and said I was unable to put myself in a position outside of myself, which is not only a personal attack, it doesn't even make sense, like the majority of your argument.

Now you're being condescending and saying you could break your opinion down into an explanation a 5 year old could grasp, so that someone as dumb and stubborn as me could get it. No... You would go online and quote almost verbatim what the one guy on YouTube who agrees with you says and you'd try to pass it off as your own.

Every single counter I made was logical... You even strengthened my argument by talking about the flaws in these characters personalities lol. If you'd ever had the misfortune of meeting people who are considered top in their field, you'd realize how ridiculous they really are. I work with egotistical nut job doctors on a daily basis and the ones who are considered leading experts in their fields are ALWAYS assholes who act like whiny children.

Every counter I made had some similar logic and reasoning. Movies more often than not have bad writing and a terrible but coherent plot. Writing being lazy or idiotic doesn't mean it doesn't make sense, but it's funny how you literally will take ANYTHING said by anyone and somehow twist it until it is "agreeing with you".

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